Comments on: Arsenal’s Forgotten Loanees http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:22:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: shane http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-43545 shane Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:26:45 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-43545 The top 3 prospects in the u18s are not Miguel, Ozzie and Afobe. Yes Afobe is in there but definetly Chuks Aneke is in there. Ozzie could be but as far as prospects, I would think Ansah would be. The top 3 prospects in the u18s are not Miguel, Ozzie and Afobe. Yes Afobe is in there but definetly Chuks Aneke is in there. Ozzie could be but as far as prospects, I would think Ansah would be.

]]> By: shane http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-43544 shane Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:53 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-43544 That happened awhile ago That happened awhile ago

]]> By: shane http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-43540 shane Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:58:55 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-43540 I think Troare could become a great left back. The 2 things he clearly lack are desision making and defensive positioning, which both come with age. I would not give up on him yet at all. As for Pedro...everytime i have seen him play, he rarely does anything worth while and considering his off the field issues, it would be really suprising to me if he is in an Arsenal jersey at any point. On the Nordveit thing...He definetly is a good talent and will be a good player. His biggest issue is he doesnt read the game real well at Def mid right now so he isnt in the right place to break up passes. He looks more of a centerback to me, but here is a player he most reminds me of....John Oshea. Utility man. I think Troare could become a great left back. The 2 things he clearly lack are desision making and defensive positioning, which both come with age. I would not give up on him yet at all.

As for Pedro…everytime i have seen him play, he rarely does anything worth while and considering his off the field issues, it would be really suprising to me if he is in an Arsenal jersey at any point.

On the Nordveit thing…He definetly is a good talent and will be a good player. His biggest issue is he doesnt read the game real well at Def mid right now so he isnt in the right place to break up passes. He looks more of a centerback to me, but here is a player he most reminds me of….John Oshea. Utility man.

]]> By: debt http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-43445 debt Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:17:19 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-43445 I never leave comments on articles, but this blog post encouraged me to comment on your post. Thank you for the read, I will link your blog and come back occasionally. I never leave comments on articles, but this blog post encouraged me to comment on your post. Thank you for the read, I will link your blog and come back occasionally.

]]> By: Sam http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42263 Sam Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:59:16 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42263 I agree you with what you said about our keeper situation Almunia should have always been a reserve keeper nothing more but not Fabianski I think he will be a future great but unlike Almunia he needs a good run of game to become a world class keeper I think we can see it in the games he plays as well In FA and Carling he doesn't really look focused for the first fifteen and 20 minutes but after that he really starts to look world class and he is an excellent shot stopper He's tall and is very well build so has everything needed from a keeper but Tech 9 (can't spell his name) will take the no.1 squad in 4-5 years and he already looks like a great players so we will be ok in future But right now I agree that we need a new keeper sell Almunia and send Fabianski on Loan or dont sell Almunia but still send Fabianski on loan and bring Mannone as the second string keeper. IF Fabianski fails in his loan spell then sell him and buy another keeper and make Almunia the reserve keeper or sell him and make Mannone the reserve keeper As for players being on loan for Premiership for two year I dont agree with that because if a player perform well in the championship and then the EPL then he has what it takes to make into the first team but if he doesn't perform in the premiership then send him on loan again and if he still doesn't perfom then sell him The top 3 prospect in the under 18's are Benik Afobe ozzie Miguel and I like Henderson and Freeman as well I agree you with what you said about our keeper situation
Almunia should have always been a reserve keeper nothing more but not Fabianski I think he will be a future great but unlike Almunia he needs a good run of game to become a world class keeper
I think we can see it in the games he plays as well
In FA and Carling he doesn’t really look focused for the first fifteen and 20 minutes but after that he really starts to look world class and he is an excellent shot stopper
He’s tall and is very well build so has everything needed from a keeper but Tech 9 (can’t spell his name) will take the no.1 squad in 4-5 years and he already looks like a great players so we will be ok in future
But right now I agree that we need a new keeper sell Almunia and send Fabianski on Loan or dont sell Almunia but still send Fabianski on loan and bring Mannone as the second string keeper. IF Fabianski fails in his loan spell then sell him and buy another keeper and make Almunia the reserve keeper or sell him and make Mannone the reserve keeper

As for players being on loan for Premiership for two year I dont agree with that because if a player perform well in the championship and then the EPL then he has what it takes to make into the first team but if he doesn’t perform in the premiership then send him on loan again and if he still doesn’t perfom then sell him

The top 3 prospect in the under 18′s are
Benik Afobe
ozzie
Miguel
and I like Henderson and Freeman as well

]]> By: stoker16 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42256 stoker16 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:07:11 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42256 traore is is sik mate! he may not be a left back but if he got his chance to play like in arshavins posish like left striker/winger he would be amnse! that is a fact. hes got the run, the skill and an apsaloot killlllllahhhhhh shot!!! he needs a chance. espeshly with wilshere, arshavin, merida and those players out the way right now traore is is sik mate! he may not be a left back but if he got his chance to play like in arshavins posish like left striker/winger he would be amnse! that is a fact. hes got the run, the skill and an apsaloot killlllllahhhhhh shot!!! he needs a chance. espeshly with wilshere, arshavin, merida and those players out the way right now

]]> By: Gunner Guru http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42228 Gunner Guru Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:21:12 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42228 Thanks for the update on these players out on loan. It is very difficult to judge whether a player is going to make it or not, or even how good of a prospect they are. Mainly becuase fans always talk up their own youth players, as do nations. Must say I have not seen Sterling, but I can believe the hype is highly influenced upon nationality...the Smalling signing of £10m+ was a perfect example of that. On top of this you can never judge a player on just watching a few games, or especially from uTube footage. Plus all players develop and improve at different stages and under various enviroments. Wenger usually gets it right on his final decision, though players like Bentley, Sidwell, Quincy, Boa Morte, Hoyte have had some good days since departing Arsenal, none would really make a big difference in out squad now or maybe their attitudes weren't right. What I am not sure on yet is if Wenger gets it right in developing the best out of talents. I think what has worked for Fabregas won't work for every player. I would prefer a system which gives those players in that fine tuning phase, 18-21, who have been through the academy, the youth league, and maybe even a short spell in the championship, a long term loan in the Prem. Maybe even a 2 year loan deal at clubs like; Wigan, Westham, Birmingham, Fulham, Newcastle, etc. Players like Vela, Merida, Walcott, Djouru, Simpson, I am sure would have developed much better if they were playing first team football, or atleast lots of sub appearences in the Prem. If after two years they impressed they would be ideally ready for the first team at Arsenal. If they are not want Wenger needs, then atleast they have been on the shop window for 2 seasons. Under this system you also end up strengthening other Premiership teams with your top up and coming players against your rivals, yet those loan players can't play against Arsenal - perfect! One thing which I am certain about is that Wengers policy does not suit Keepers. Fabianski will not develop enough sitting on the bench and training, and we certainly can't afford to play him after some shocking perfromances! Wenger shoul part own Keepers he likes or buy and loan back for several years until they reach the prime. Look at Man Shitty, they are probably going to loan the best up and coming keeper in England out for 2-3 years, they brought a keeper for a fairly good price in the peak of his career, and they have a reserve keeper who isn't going to be the next best thing...but is just that - a reserve keeper. Unfortunatly Arsenal made their reserve keeper their number 1, when he was always just a reserve keeper for a club of Arsenals nature! Sorry gone on a bit. Just one question...WHO DO YOU THINK ARE ARSENALS BEST 3 PROSPECTS UNDER 18? Thanks for the update on these players out on loan.
It is very difficult to judge whether a player is going to make it or not, or even how good of a prospect they are. Mainly becuase fans always talk up their own youth players, as do nations. Must say I have not seen Sterling, but I can believe the hype is highly influenced upon nationality…the Smalling signing of £10m+ was a perfect example of that.
On top of this you can never judge a player on just watching a few games, or especially from uTube footage. Plus all players develop and improve at different stages and under various enviroments.
Wenger usually gets it right on his final decision, though players like Bentley, Sidwell, Quincy, Boa Morte, Hoyte have had some good days since departing Arsenal, none would really make a big difference in out squad now or maybe their attitudes weren’t right.
What I am not sure on yet is if Wenger gets it right in developing the best out of talents. I think what has worked for Fabregas won’t work for every player. I would prefer a system which gives those players in that fine tuning phase, 18-21, who have been through the academy, the youth league, and maybe even a short spell in the championship, a long term loan in the Prem. Maybe even a 2 year loan deal at clubs like; Wigan, Westham, Birmingham, Fulham, Newcastle, etc. Players like Vela, Merida, Walcott, Djouru, Simpson, I am sure would have developed much better if they were playing first team football, or atleast lots of sub appearences in the Prem. If after two years they impressed they would be ideally ready for the first team at Arsenal. If they are not want Wenger needs, then atleast they have been on the shop window for 2 seasons. Under this system you also end up strengthening other Premiership teams with your top up and coming players against your rivals, yet those loan players can’t play against Arsenal – perfect!
One thing which I am certain about is that Wengers policy does not suit Keepers. Fabianski will not develop enough sitting on the bench and training, and we certainly can’t afford to play him after some shocking perfromances! Wenger shoul part own Keepers he likes or buy and loan back for several years until they reach the prime. Look at Man Shitty, they are probably going to loan the best up and coming keeper in England out for 2-3 years, they brought a keeper for a fairly good price in the peak of his career, and they have a reserve keeper who isn’t going to be the next best thing…but is just that – a reserve keeper. Unfortunatly Arsenal made their reserve keeper their number 1, when he was always just a reserve keeper for a club of Arsenals nature!

Sorry gone on a bit. Just one question…WHO DO YOU THINK ARE ARSENALS BEST 3 PROSPECTS UNDER 18?

]]> By: Sam http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42168 Sam Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:21:20 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42168 too long to read it all but Clichy will not be sold and I can bet money on that because first we don't need to sell him, no-one of the three have necessary experience to take over and thirdly neither Bothelo or Traore know how to defend. The only person who can become a future arsenal LB is Gibbs Traore future will become clearer - he will either be sold or turned into a midfielder or a winger Bothelo will certainly either be released or sold since he off pitch antics has definitely hindered his footballing career too long to read it all but
Clichy will not be sold and I can bet money on that because first we don’t need to sell him, no-one of the three have necessary experience to take over and thirdly neither Bothelo or Traore know how to defend.
The only person who can become a future arsenal LB is Gibbs
Traore future will become clearer – he will either be sold or turned into a midfielder or a winger
Bothelo will certainly either be released or sold since he off pitch antics has definitely hindered his footballing career

]]> By: jimmy b http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42166 jimmy b Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:04:27 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42166 insightful article, i disagree that traore is finished or hasn't impressed...he did a good job of filling in during our run of good form when gibbs and clichy where both out, he's quick, confident, and has the ability like clichy to get forward and put in telling balls from out wide....he also has the added advantage of being able to strike a ball from distance extremely well...he's young and i tihnk over time will get better and better....i fear clichy may be a sacrificial lamb to the clubs bank balance and will be sold to madrid very soon....so having gibbs, traore and pedro to choose from won't be a bad thing as all three can play the full back role and push further forward when needed...their all young and have great promise....eventually i imagine the three will become two but only after aw has time to look at them all , i'd say his first choice would be gibbs and one of the remaining two will go.......as for havard i also remember the media storm surrounding his arrival and him being the next big thing...even though it looks like his progress hasn't been like we all hoped it would be he's a smart lad and the experiance he is gathering will hold him in good stead...i would like to think him and kyle bartley will be the next two cb's in the the youth system to make it to the first team......i believe in the young players we have coming through and the clubs ability to nurture them into top class footballers...i agree like most that we need a little more additional investment in more experianced players but not as badly as everyone thinks...we are in dire need of a world class gk and a dm .....i don't include a striker or cb in this as i tihnk we have already agreed a deal with chamakh (correct me if i'm wrong) and that possibly song will move back to replace willy gallas when he enevitabley leaves.....but things are looking good and if we can push hard for the title till the last day i will be very pleased and will look forward to summer signings and next season with alot more hope and excitement than in the last years preceding, with all the loanee's coming back, youth players progressing, new signings immiment and a current squad full of talent i say out loud and proud its good to be a gooner.....p.s my best wishes to rambo we all hope you make a speedy recoverey mate and get back to the exceptional form you have showed this year insightful article, i disagree that traore is finished or hasn’t impressed…he did a good job of filling in during our run of good form when gibbs and clichy where both out, he’s quick, confident, and has the ability like clichy to get forward and put in telling balls from out wide….he also has the added advantage of being able to strike a ball from distance extremely well…he’s young and i tihnk over time will get better and better….i fear clichy may be a sacrificial lamb to the clubs bank balance and will be sold to madrid very soon….so having gibbs, traore and pedro to choose from won’t be a bad thing as all three can play the full back role and push further forward when needed…their all young and have great promise….eventually i imagine the three will become two but only after aw has time to look at them all , i’d say his first choice would be gibbs and one of the remaining two will go…….as for havard i also remember the media storm surrounding his arrival and him being the next big thing…even though it looks like his progress hasn’t been like we all hoped it would be he’s a smart lad and the experiance he is gathering will hold him in good stead…i would like to think him and kyle bartley will be the next two cb’s in the the youth system to make it to the first team……i believe in the young players we have coming through and the clubs ability to nurture them into top class footballers…i agree like most that we need a little more additional investment in more experianced players but not as badly as everyone thinks…we are in dire need of a world class gk and a dm …..i don’t include a striker or cb in this as i tihnk we have already agreed a deal with chamakh (correct me if i’m wrong) and that possibly song will move back to replace willy gallas when he enevitabley leaves…..but things are looking good and if we can push hard for the title till the last day i will be very pleased and will look forward to summer signings and next season with alot more hope and excitement than in the last years preceding, with all the loanee’s coming back, youth players progressing, new signings immiment and a current squad full of talent i say out loud and proud its good to be a gooner…..p.s my best wishes to rambo we all hope you make a speedy recoverey mate and get back to the exceptional form you have showed this year

]]> By: Alex http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42165 Alex Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:24:57 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42165 He was training with the team before the Porto game so i think he should be fit now. Prob be on the bench for Burnely but might not if Diaby and Arshavin return. He was training with the team before the Porto game so i think he should be fit now. Prob be on the bench for Burnely but might not if Diaby and Arshavin return.

]]> By: Andrew http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42164 Andrew Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:02:49 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42164 no idea I think arsenal decided not to buy him we will know more about him in the summer no idea
I think arsenal decided not to buy him we will know more about him in the summer

]]> By: Andrew http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42163 Andrew Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:02:07 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42163 probably not the starting lineup because diaby, arshavin and gallas will be back by then I think but if he's Ok then at least in the sub bench If doesn't even feature at the sub bench then and he's fit then I would say his names at arsenal are numbered probably not the starting lineup because diaby, arshavin and gallas will be back by then I think
but if he’s Ok then at least in the sub bench
If doesn’t even feature at the sub bench then and he’s fit then I would say his names at arsenal are numbered

]]> By: Andy http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42162 Andy Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:33:16 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42162 Does anyone know what happend to the 6'3 midfielder we signed where there was an issue over his actual age? I've not heard anything about him since Does anyone know what happend to the 6’3 midfielder we signed where there was an issue over his actual age?
I’ve not heard anything about him since

]]> By: Stone http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42161 Stone Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:32:29 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42161 Does anybody know about Merida's injury situation? If he is alright then he could be in the starting line-up for Burnley at the Grove. I haven't seen anything about him being injured. Does anybody know about Merida’s injury situation? If he is alright then he could be in the starting line-up for Burnley at the Grove. I haven’t seen anything about him being injured.

]]> By: Andrew http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42159 Andrew Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:41:31 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42159 he's not in the injury list and merida provide a bit more physicality as well to the midfield he’s not in the injury list and merida provide a bit more physicality as well to the midfield

]]> By: shahmaster http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42158 shahmaster Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:39:21 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42158 it was quite a debut goal nice control and shot thanks for the video! it was quite a debut goal nice control and shot thanks for the video!

]]> By: Andrew http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42157 Andrew Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:39:02 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42157 here's one with much better quality http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/0,,GIM1220045-7759-MELHORES+MOMENTOS+FLUMINENSE+X+FRIBURGUENSE+PELA+RODADA+DA+TACA+RIO,00.html here’s one with much better quality
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/0,,GIM1220045-7759-MELHORES+MOMENTOS+FLUMINENSE+X+FRIBURGUENSE+PELA+RODADA+DA+TACA+RIO,00.html

]]> By: Alex http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42156 Alex Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:08:19 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42156 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECkT3g-CkI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECkT3g-CkI

]]> By: Alex http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42155 Alex Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:07:58 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42155 Wellingtons goal Wellingtons goal

]]> By: Max http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/02/arsenals-forgotten-loanees/comment-page-1/#comment-42154 Max Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:40:13 +0000 http://younggunsblog.co.uk/?p=7013#comment-42154 wtf? he's black as well?? whats that got to do with anything? wtf? he’s black as well?? whats that got to do with anything?

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