Arsenal are set to win a ‘Special Talent’ work visa for Brazilian forward Wellington Silva. It means the youngster will be available to join up with The Gunners from the 6th of January 2011.
Silva is currently preparing to fly to London for the third and final part of an adaptation period; a program set up by the club to make the transition from life in Brazil to England easier. Wellington leaves parent side Fluminense in frustrating circumstances with coach Muricy Ramalho freezing him out of first-team action.
Yet the end to his current nightmare is in sight. Silva is poised to be granted a special talent visa; a loophole allowing exceptional talent to move countries when they wouldn’t normally qualify for a work permit under conventional rules. Arsenal have previously exploited the rule, bringing both Alexandre Song and Denilson in via the same route.
The completion of the transfer in January will see Arsenal hand over the final payment of £850,000 for the remaining 25% of Silva’s ownership. It means the full transfer will have cost the club around £3.4 million.
if we win against city then this can potentially turn out to be the best week we have had in a long long time
thanks for the info
Great news, and a FANTASTIC job to be the go-to source on Wellington since the beginning Jay. You do yourself proud with this kind of reporting.
is he a midfielder??
did you guys know we missed out on yaya toure because of this stupid visa thing?
this damn visa debacle has probably costed us some of the world best players
There is no doubt about it, but not just us. Only the wealthiest clubs can pay the premium for established internationals who will get visas, and when a few billionaires took over prices soared almost out of sight. But perhaps it’s also why we poach ’em even younger now.
Anyway, it’s another reason why Wenger’s ability to source players even with this handicap has made him invaluable as a manager.
Have you all seen this ranking.
http://www.iffhs.de/?20e22b04ff3700e46b55a76917f7370eff3702bb1c2bbb6e0f
The visa system also meant we missed out on Ronaldinho and C Ronaldo. The former was to partner TH14 while in the case of the latter we ended up with our second choice, Reyes.
Yah, the yaya thing is really old news but even more than Yaya, the work permit system cost us Ronaldinho.
Finally a player we have got who can dribble past players.
RYo miyaihci, wellington silva, pedro botleho these guys are exciting players to watch.
I am fed up of Wenger playing central midfielders on the flanks. nasri, rosicky, arshavin, fabregas, denilson, wilshere ramsey we have got too many central midfielders we need to get rid of some and bring some balance into the team.
We need to get rid of nasri first than slowly arshavin and rosicky once ramsey, wilshere become integrated into the first team
ohn are you mad???? Nasri is one of our best players get rid of him and you get rid of the 2nd fabregas!!!! no one has that technical ability that nasri beholds. learn how to analyse a match of nasris before you criticize him.
Get rid of Nasri??? I think you must be in the wrong team! :)
U must b outta ur damn mind by saying get rid of Nasri…….. Go back to where u belong because u dn’t to gooners
U must b outta ur damn mind by saying get rid of Nasri…….. Go back to where u belong because u dn’t belong to gooners
Not one for patience are you John!
“I am fed up of Wenger playing central midfielders on the flanks. nasri, rosicky, arshavin, fabregas, denilson, wilshere ramsey”
Oh absolutely – you forgot to mention how he screwed up by playing Pires, Bergkamp, Parlour and Ljunberg on the wings as well. Absolute disaster that was. I can see Nasri in particular is really suffering out wide – surely he’s going to end up a failure, much like Pires :-)
No seriously its pretty obvious that Wenger does not play conventional wingers. The flank strikers really function as playmakers and shadow strikers, who fill in centrally when they are on the “weak side of the play”. Nasri’s goal vs Shaktar was exactly what Pires and Ljunberg used to do – ghost into the box and finish plays while the nominal striker, Chamakh (read: Henry) is occupying and drawing defenders’ attention.
John, I get your point which is something I have been saying for awhile but you sound like a muppet.
We do not need to get rid of talented players for this though. Just simply need to add a winger.
Why get rid of Rosicky when he is comfortable in his role, does not complain at all and always plays well when he comes on. You won’t find many better squad players then him.
You’re clueless if you want rid of wither nasri or Arshavin. Nasri has been our best player this season, along with Wilshere and is a top class pro.
You have no football brain!
you muppet
£3.4 million sounds a lot (especially considering we can’t afford gk *cough* jk jk!) but the whole things make me even curious to see how well Wellington do in our red shirt.
does this mean he will go straight to reserves?
he will go into the first team not reserves
and Fabianski got his chance and he has taken it this time with both hands
Why are people against him? if he can continue his development he can become an awesome no.1 even Szczesny conceded that
give him your support please I beg you
if he starts dropping clangers again then you can bash him as much you want
john r u bloody mad geting sayin we shud let go of nasri u bludy retard
If we can get Special case VISA for Song and Denilson(Both were very ordinary when signed)then surely we will get work permit for Silva
Denilson was captain of the u20 brazil team.
John are you mad???? Nasri is one of our best players get rid of him and you get rid of the 2nd fabregas!!!! no one has that technical ability that nasri beholds. learn how to analyse a match of nasris before you criticize him.
@Bala
Denilson were captain of brazil’s youth team, if that is ordinary i don’t know….
Vela didn’t get one even though he was the leading goalscorer in u-17 wolrd cup
players that can become the next superstars for arsenal
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/498227-arsenal-golden-genration-youngsters-that-will-serve-arsenal-for-years-to-come
really good article from jason
p.s sorry about this james
probably should have asked you before posting this article here
John, are you mentally ill? Who the hell would want to get rid of Nasri? You’re the first Gooner I’ve seen to advocate losing Samir. He’s one of more exciting players and he’s certainly showing his worth with the 6 goals he’s scored so far. He’s an integral part of our team now and will continue to be in the future. He has the attitude and ambition that some of our players lack, he stands up for himself and his team mates like the Joey Barton incident his first season and Hull last year. He can pick out a pass, he can dribble better than everyone save Diaby, maybe, and he’s proven that he can shoot. Sort yourself out, John.
I think we do lack proper wingers with Narsi, Arshivan and Rosicky being converted midfielders/attacking midfielders having to play on the wing… the only really one we do have is Walcott.
I welcome this kind of signing he looks like a player but I dont think Arsenal are signing Miyaihci maybe Jay can confirm this as I thought I saw that we optioned out.
Lastly Narsi has been brillant for Arsenal this season he’s a good team player with good ability on the ball and can score…… why on earth would you want to sell him??? Arshivan thats completed different he has been poor (putting it nicely).
Jay any new on Szczensy/Nordtveit I really dont understand how to of or most exciting prospects contracts were not renewed earlier this keeps on happening, its a joke.
Now both are in a position were there heads can be turned and could leave for a small amount come the end of the season.
I am sure wenger is working on it
these things take time and persuasion
Szczesny will need some game time before he signs a contract
Nortvedit too probably
John if you knew anything about football you would not call Walcott a “REAL WINGER”, COZ he ain’t one by any standard! Theo’s skills are best suited as a CF just like henry. He can’t pass nor cross, but has one of the best finish in EPL(laser like pin point strikes) and because he is still young and fast Arsene is using him on the wing till he’s stronger physically! when he builds more muscles and becomes a step slower he will move to the middle of our strike force.
Wellington is a great talent.
heres a video on RYO MIYAICHI who we have also signed and he will join us in january too with silva!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_oxAzRm9X0&feature=fvst
any sources for this? also, wasn’t galindo a sure bet to get one as well but didn’t?
I hope they don’t screw us again as silva IS an exceptional talent
Why the special visa for Song, he’s a French citizen? Those work permit issues don’t apply for EU members. As for Denilson he is a special talent who captained the Brazil under 20 team! And he was rated our top player in 2008-9 by the actim index. His injury frustrated his development but he is returning to form.
Alex Song is not French. He’s from Cameroon.
lets not major on the youngstars alone we should also focus on some experienced players to secure abetter stand in the champions league.for example van persie has proved that he cannot go ahalf aseason before picking up injury why not sell him and bring torres or etoo or any other experienced player?
Re: Galindo – I believe the higher the country’s ranking the more likely the player is to get a special visa. Brazil are one of the top teams so a young player from Brazil is much more likely to get a special visa than the more lowly ranked Bolivia
I have read a few times from a few different people that Wellington will move into the first team squad when he arrives.
I want to know why people think this will be the case. It seems a little strange considering his age and the leap from Brazilian football to the Premier League.
Those talking about not having a natural winger and missing the point. While I agree and have said many times that it could benefit us if we had a dribbler amongst the ranks but we play creative wide players for a reason. It is our tactical plan to dominate centrally and use our full backs for the width. You are not going to see a wide player stand out by the touch line for 90 minutes.
How has samir nasri been excellent?
Hes been poor for a playmaker he doesnt create alot or score goals aprt frm pens.
We have missed fabregas and ramseys killer instinct in central midfielder.
Nasri is a liability he passes the ball sideways and backwards too much for me and lacks pace to play wide.
Arshavin has been better than nasri this season and he isnt even been playing well which shows how average nasri is
John buddy,
Stop it! You know what happens when you start posting before you’ve taken your medication…
Leave poor Nasri alone and march in there and take your meds…you loony toon!
John,
All kidding aside. It’s dumb to mount a campaign about Nasri’s incompetence when he’s playing as well as he is.
Samir Nasri is 23 year old. He beat Man United with an excellent brace a couple of years back. He’s always been one of our most technically gifted players, and one of the few that can dribble players, as his master stroke in the CL last year demonstrates.
He’s also a brilliant passer, as his chip to Chamakh beautifully demonstrated in mid-week.
Samir Nasri is an exceptional passer, dribbler, and is technically brilliant. He’s also a tough kid, having grown up, I believe, on rough streets of Marseille.
This most recent idiocy of yours, attempting to claim Nasri’s incompetence in the middle of one of his best runs of form since he’s been with the team is shocking even by your own typically analytical extravagance.
Give it a rest dude, and try paying attention to what our players are actually doing rather than attacking our best players.
John is a clueless armchair twat.
Ska Alex was born in Cameroon but moved to France as a kid. Do you know that Chamakh is a French citizen though he plays for Morocco? And that Drogba is French and plays for Ivory Coast? And that Diaby and Djourou are French and Swiss respectively but could have played for Ivory Coast as well? Or that Frimpong is English but wants to play for Ghana? And don’t get me to comment on Aneke, Nasri, Walcott and many more!
Nice post j
Hope he fulfill his promise. As i heard he’s one of the best in brazil and have a lot to give.
Any news on szczeny and nortvedit contract renewal
Alex was born in Douala, Cameroon, but he grew-up in france… so he has a dual nationality…so we can say he’s french.
Its not even explioting a rule, as he is indeed a special special talent!
Szcensy that guy was brilliant in the ATVO interview very clever, well spoken guy.
He sounded quite happy doesnt sound like he wanted to leave.
He said fabianski will get better and he will be world class.
Any one think arshavin is better then nasri he need brush to his brain, look our open game at one on one with reina? or they is “NAZI” inside.
Are you kidding me lol. Arshavin IS a better player than Nasri (who is a good player) and has been for a long time now. Arshavin is not is the best form at the moment but only a blind muppet would say Nasri is better or has reached what Arshavin is/was. Did you sleep during the Euro 2008 or miss the famous 4 goal at anfield game? People need to understand players don’t continue at the top level for ever….they get older and drop off a bit. Who knows if it is just a small rut or Arshavin is just aging but to talk like that about Arshavin is plain stupid. When Nasri reaches the level that Arshavin has then we can talk.
Note the remarkable number of English coaches in that coaches ranking list!! god Blog
Can someone please confrim: Is Wellington a winger? Or is he an AM capable of playing on the wings.
Heard big things about him, Tim Vickery ranked him alongside Santos’ Henrique (Ganso) and Inter’s Coutinho as the best up and coming Brazilian creative talent. He has stagnated a bit though…the sooner he gets to London Colney under Wenger’s watchful eyes the better imo.
I’ve always thought of him as a winger/striker in the Robinho mould (although hopefully with a better attitude!) from the games I’ve seen him in. Could be wrong though, would welcome to be stand corrected.
He is a striker/winger. Thierry Henry type with more tricks mould.
I cannot believe the Nasri bashing. Do you not watch the games? He has carried the team many times this season.
I don’t normally like to get sidetracked away from this good news which as ever Young Guns is first to break but this rubbish about needing wingers and not midfield players in wide positions needs dealing with.
Our best ever team had Pires and Ljungberg out wide.Neither were conventional wingers but they were quite brilliant.Nasri is so good he is a worthy heir to Pires (and that’s saying something)and has been our most consistent player this season.Arshavin has also been very consistent but consistently poor.
I thought we were about to sign Miyaichi.Has the situation changed?
I agree 100% with Thundertinygooner. John is an idiot. Nasri has improved this year and has been the architect and finisher of some of our most creative goals over the past 2 seasons. John, what is your problem with Nasri?? I know you said that he passes sideways and backwards a lot, but he has made a few brilliant assists these past 2 years. If there isn’t a gap to explaoit, I’d rather he take the safe rout and pass it laterally or backwards to a teamate, then have him turn the ball over to the opposition. On every attack there isn’t gong to be a killer pass or an assist to make. That’s just the reality of football and that is how it should be. This isn’t Fifa 11 or something. Get your head out of your ass now!!!
I agree Nasri has been fairly decent, and Arshavin fairly ordinary, but neither can be compared to Pires and Ljungberg in terms of their effectivity. Mind you they were in a team with players like Vieira, Henry and Bergkamp, who often carried the team in their pomp..
I don’t often agree with John but Nasri tends to be too safe unless the thru pass is very obvious. His dribbling & movement isn’t dynamic enough but ball-striking and touch is very good
how song got a visas ,i thought he play for france youth team so he s got a french passeport
I am getting annoyed at people who complain as soon as a player falls out of his prime. This happens…players get older. Arshavin might just be hitting that stage. Unfortunetly we did not get him in his prime. For people to constently talk shit about him is annoying though. Comparing all these players that have not even come close to his level to him. By the way, he was as good as Pires and definetly Ljunberg in his prime. Just because he played in Russia does not mean he was any less of a player. Did people really miss the entire Euros or the 4 goal liverpool game?
Anybody who isn’t happy with Nasri’s recent performances does not understand the way Arsenal play, and the role that Nasri plays within that setup.
Nasri isn’t going to start dribbling and trying to beat players all the time, he does have the ability to do that but it’s not what our game is about. We unlock teams with movement OFF the ball, not by repeatedly dribbling and losing possession. It’s just not our style and there’s no point complaining about it.
Secondly, Nasri is not usually tasked as a playmaker within our system. That’s the job of Cesc and Arshavin, they are the ones primarily employed to make the defence splitting passes. Nasri’s main duties when playing on the right side is to be efficient and retain the ball well, to do the simple things well and get the ball to Cesc and Arshavin to do some damage.
Nasri is a very good player, and a very intelligent one. Positionally and tactically he’s very good and this is why Wenger has used him in this no-frills role, because he trusts him implicitly to follow his instructions. But he has more to him than that, he has wonderful creative qualities which he doesn’t use as often in this role. Yet when he has been used centrally and been given those creative responsibilities (such as vs Porto when he ran the show) he usually performs well.
Nasri shouldn’t be judged on what he doesn’t do but what on what he does, and how well he does it. And from what I can see he is doing a great job for the team and contributing massively, just not in the way some people expect.
I don’t get the beef with Nasri either. I agree with most of you points except for the whole creative part. Nasri’s biggest weekness is for a “playmaker” he does not have the ability to see and pick the defense splitting pass. However that is not a big deal when guys like Arshavin, Fabregas and Wilshere are out there. Nasri is more of the guy that links up but like you said, makes the movements to get open and usually finishes when the chances come.
We do still need a proper high quality winger for this formation but there is no reason for Nasri to go anywhere.
I have to disagree with you Shane, I believe he does have the ability to thread passes, he simply doesn’t get into the positions on the pitch where he can make those passes often enough.
Watch this compilation of Nasri (the assists part starts at 2:27). Where do most of his assists come from? Central areas. But how often has he been employed centrally in the last 2 seasons? Not very often, probably only a handful of games. When Nasri is given a central role with playmaker responsibilities, he can and does create plenty of goalscoring chances.
This is similar to the criticism that used to be leveled at Fabregas, that he didn’t score enough goals. The reason Cesc didn’t score many was that he was a deep-lying playmaker who wasn’t suppose to be getting into the box. There was nothing wrong with his ABILITY to score goals.
When we switched formation to a 4-3-3 and Cesc was pushed higher up the pitch, he scored 19 goals last season. He didn’t suddenly learn how to score, he was just put in a position to do so.
And if Nasri was put in a position to create goals (which he very well could be when Cesc leaves), he has the ability to do so.
Sorry but you are wrong mate. If you have ever watched France or Nasri when Fabregas is out and he is asked to play in the play maker role, he is very poor at it. I am not saying he never creates anything, i am just saying that it is pretty obvious that is his weak point.
On Fabregas, not sure why you keep saying he was a deep lying play maker. He was a box to box do it all midfielder in a 2 man central midfield but yes he does have less defensive responsibilities so he finds himself in goal scoring positions more but it is also to the fact that he is improving all the time.
Cesc was a box-to-box midfielder??
No offence, but you need to look up this terminology, because you obviously don’t understand what any of it means if you think Cesc was ever “box-to-box”.
I get the feeling you don’t understand football very well. A deep lying playmaker is people like Xabi Alonso and Pirlo. If you are saying that Fabregas in our 4-4-2 played the same as them than I can not help you mate….sorry.
Regarding Alex Song, Cameroonians are not allowed dual citizenship
He had to renounce his French citizenship
Miyiachi is not better than JET
is it me or do some Arsenal fans who don`t know how our youth works just begin to Hype Ruo especially with that Youtub vid that show he dribble against the worst possible defence i have ever seen in Youth Football
call me Mad but Ryo would have to Battle JET for his position..lets not forget First team and Nasri is still 23>
To be honest I don`t know why we got Ryo..
because when Aneke is go to first team, Wilshere will be shifted wide..and the mid would be Chuks and Ramsey supported by Song ( song is 23 and still young)
Have you not heard of Shinji Kagawa or Keisuke Honda? If there is a talented young Asian player, i say we bring him in and take a chance. For one he could be a good player…who knows, but if he is, having an Asian player adds to your marketability and bring a whole lot of money into the club. I personally wish we had or do bring in one of Honda or Kagawa.
any news on szczesny’s contract from the ATVO interbiew???
Its not Arshavin’s age / current ability that’s a problem, or the (lack of) effort he puts in.. the guy was giving the ball away constantly which makes us have to defend, which is not our strongest trait.. Nasri very rarely loses possession through loose passing, heavy touches and blind backheels.. JET could easily take his position towards the end of the season..
Arshavin gives the ball away more because his job is creating things so he attempts riskier passes than a Nasri. If you want simple play then this is the wrong team for you.
Please don’t compare JET to Arshavin lol. JET looks good but those are reserve players he is going against.
Arsh isn’t giving the ball away because he’s “creating”. He’s gifting the ball because of stupid passes and trying to overdo passes. He had about three backflips that went to no one, and were near no one, the last game. He’s an excellent player. He just can’t be relied upon like he is now. He works when he’s not focused on, and there’s no pressure.
I am not saying he never gives the ball away just on a bad pass or he always plays the best game of his life but the simple fact is play makers will loose the ball more because the difficulty of their passes will be higher then lets say Denilson’s short passing.
Heem, don’t babble. Laurent Etame Mayer played for Cameroon and he was a Spanish citizen. Assou-Ekoto plays for Cameroon and he is French. Lauren said he couldn’t communicate with most of the team as he couldn’t speak French. Lauren could also have played for Equatorial Guinea – where his parents came from – or Spain where he grew up!
heem he is born in Cameroon so he has Cameroon passport already and he earn dual citizenship with france not the way around.He dont have to renounce any of his nationality.His uncle have the R.Song have the same Dual nationality french/Cameroon
Is aneke our best youngster? is it realistic to think he could become one of the best players in the world?
With the right application, no doubt.
Cameroon doesnt allow people to have two citizenships… just google, their are a bunch of article about this and it has been a debate in the country, one guy couldnt run for Prime Minister because of this
and to put it simple, why would Song need a special talent work permit if he was a French citizen? it makes no sense, unless he wasnt actually a French citizen
Essou-Ekotto was born in France
I cant give you an answer in regards to Lauren, all I know is that its been a debate in Cameroon for some time
Shane, I have been saying Arsenal should sign Kagawa for 3 seasons now! And Dortmund got him for less than 300 thousand pounds … Wenger made a mistake missing out on him. I follow the J and K leagues closely, and there is a lot of untapped talents in those two nations, that region is where we should focus on now, as South American, and European talent is too pricy.
I won’t go as far as saying that we should focus on Asia but in the instance of Kagawa and Honda, they are great players. Soth America and Europe still put out far more talents tho. I saw some of Kagawa for his in the J-league 2nd division and you could see his talent. It was fairly obvious. When I heard his fee was like 350k I was shocked but we can not sign every good young player in the world unfortunately.
HEY J
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/football-hotline/2010/10/24/arsenal-track-barcelona-s-new-cesc-fabregas-102039-22653684/
any of this real ??
john..nasri score again today..
For all the Nasri, Arshavin talk you saw in one goal exactly what I have been saying. Arshavin makes the pass and Nasri makes the movement and finish.
Have to say I hate the 4-2-3-1. It is not needed. All it does is make us super defensive which is still not our strength regardless. Fabregas wants to drop so deep and Arshavin and Nasri are so wide that is just leaves Chamakh up by himself. With the 4-3-3 you never knew who was attacking so it made it harder on the opponents defense.
Last thing, what is Djurou doing? Some one tell him to relax and stop diving in all the time.
100% agree mate..we talk about our two most tecnically gifted in our squad..hopefully wenger address the problem and replace djorou at half time
Want about Japanese kid