Brazilian youngsters Luis Gustavo Conte and Wellington flew into North London yesterday morning ahead of their 14 day trials with Arsenal – which begun this morning.
Conte (14) and Wellington (15) were both scouted by reliable informant Sandro Orlandelli, who has extensive contacts in South America. Orlandelli was responsible for the signings of both Denilson and Pedro Botelho, and looks to have come up the goods yet again. Conte is an elegant and composed central midfielder, who currently ply’s his trade with São Paulo minnows Mirassol, who surprisingly offered the services of the prospect to the Gunners.
Sources in Europe suggest he is all but certain to be handed a contract, with a small amount of compensation changing hands. The other player, Wellington, is on the books of Rio based outfit Fluminense. He’s a powerful and strong winger who can operate on either flank, and has already drawn comparisons with Ryan Babel for his direct, pacy style. Wellington shot to fame during this years Nike Cup tournament in Manchester, where his star performances helped Fluminense walk away with the trophy.
Both his family and agent are keen to complete a switch shortly, to the anger of his current employers. Wellington is close friends with Man Utd duo Fabio and Rafael da Silva, but despite having the option to join them in the North of England, Arsenal have first priority on any sale. The agreement entails that following the successful completion of a 14 day trial; the Gunners can sign the player on a pre-contract. The winger would move to London on his 16th Birthday, on January 6th.
Article By – J.Sanderson
Good news though am I right in thinking they can’t play at the club until they are 18 and/or leave Brazil? Just need a few clarifications but good work J.
Liking the sounds of these, would be good to get them in and teach them the arsenal way haha.
Fascinating stuff. Visas apart, with Wenger’s youth policy they’re only 2 years away from a first team start! LOL.
I’m all for Wenger’s policy of snapping up top youth, although we haven’t yet seen the full success of it. Clichy and Cesc have come through, but Vela, Bendtner, Wilshere and Ramsey are still works in progress.
I’m sure Wenger is keeping an eye on the homegrown rule as well.
Mirassol, nice! I lived about 20 minutes away from there. It’s 6 hours bus journey from the city of Sao Paulo, right at the top of Sao Paulo state. Doriva, who recently played for Middlesborough, started his career there.
sounds good but i was also under the impression there some regulation about leaving before the age of 18 but maybe its just england and they could go on loan to salamanca
That’s right, like Fabio and Rafael, they can’t joined until they’re 18., not sure why Jay says 16, because that’s not the case anymore.
http://www.mirassolfc.com.br/noticias.aspx?not=403
News direct from the Mirassol FC site.
Basically it states that the club are not allowed to sell the player at this young age but could sign an agreement to help develop the player with Arsenal having the rights to sign him when he’s old enough.
The player himself seems very level headed. Talking about realising he’s still learning the game and wanting to try hard during his 10 days trial at Arsenal.
Yeah, whats with the 16 thing? I thought Brazilian youngsters weren’t allowed to play for teams outside the continent (except Portugal for obv. reasons) until 18. And presumably, unless they are likely to be early starters in the national team, they’d have to Salamanca it first right?
The full-back Luiz Gustavo Conde, 14 years, captain of the childlike team (sub-15) of the Mirassol in the Championship Paulista of the category, presents himself on the 5th of December, in Emirates Stadium, in London, in England. He is going to suffer a phase of adaptation of 10 days in the Arsenal, integrant of the First English Division and one of the biggest European clubs. In this period, Luiz Gustavo will participate of two friendly for sub-15, besides knowing the structure of the association. The expectation of the boy is to do good plays to attract attention of the technician Arsène Wenger.“ My dream of traveling abroad and knowing a great club as the Arsenal is coming true. I am conscious that I am still in apprenticeship phase, but I am not going to measure efforts to repeat the same performance that I have in the Mirassol”, said the full-back, of Valentim Gentil and what is one year ago and a half in the categories of base of the Lion. Luiz Gustavo resides in the accommodation of the stadium José Maria de Campos Maia and divides the trainings with the classrooms of the 8th series.“ I want to go to university of physical therapy or physical education”, he says. The businessman Carlos Roberto Carvalho, of the CR Promoções/Energy Sports, partner of the categories of base of the Mirassol, is going to accompany the full-back in the travel. The boarding is marked for the day 4. Since Luiz Gustavo still did not complete 15 years, the Mirassol is prevented from negotiating. However, two clubs will be able to secure a partnership to form the athlete in Brazil up to reaching the age of transfer. Previously, the Lion ordered half a Nicão for the PSV of Holland, and the attackers Marlon, Andrezinho and Childish fellow for Really Madrid. Saint Edvaldo The full-back Dão was begun by it to train in Mirassol Clube employ physiologist Como it leaves from the projection of mounting a multidisciplinal team and a center of reference of athletes’ recuperation, the Mirassol announced yesterday the employment of the physiologist Danilo Silva, 31 years, which it already worked in the Ituano, Bragantino, Saint Monk and Saint André.“ My function is to give any scientific support to a physical preparator, through the evaluations of the players”, he said Bramble. The full-back Dão, ex-CRB, began to train yesterday in the stadium José Maria de Campos Maia. Already the attacker Leandro Fonseca, 33 years, which the Northwest defended in the Brazilian of the Series C and in the Top Paulista, presents himself on Monday. “It is completely certain.
That is a full translation right there.
Paul where do you live in Brazil?
I’m also a Brazilian :)
great find j.
Wellington is already 16 though btw..
http://www.conmebol.com/competiciones_evento_equipos_ver.jsp?evento=1180&ano=2007&htmab=BRA&hasid=101&slangab=S
the Number 10 I’m fairly sure that’s him.
nice both are brazilian eh i hope they wont be like denilson. got their pictures?
Maybe they can move over there and play for the Academy but not play for the reserves or first team till they’re 18. I don’t know much about it though.
So it’s a safe bet one of these guys will be shipped off to spain in the summer?
It says on the Mirassol website that he is a fullback.
One of them is 14? Wow. Have we ever signed anyone at 14?
Great link, Paul. The thing is, the Mirassol site says he’s a defender, not a midfielder. Maybe converting him to DM, but on the site they call him ‘zagueiro’, or central defender.
lol I have Wellington on my FM08 arsenal team! (it’s 2013 though)
anyhow i’m sure wenger will snap them up if they’re good enough.
If this scout recommended Denilson, then there must be question marks over his ability to recognise a good player !!
No R, there is a question mark over your ability to recognise a good player though.
R. You are one hilarious fella
Wellington……I know that name. He sounds very familiar! Hopefully they impress at the trial.
Or yours?
I think Denilson was accidentally found by Wenger while he was in a Brazil scouting trip. I read somewhere that Wenger requested for some football videos of some prospects (not Denilson though) in Brazil from Sandro in order to kill time in the hotel. While running through some videos, Wenger found Denilson.
If this scout recommended Denilson, then there must be question marks over his ability to recognise a good player !!
R said this on December 5, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Denilson’s season (as stolen from gunnerblog) as the best god damn player in the premiership this season:
Two goals this season – that’s double Cesc’s tally
Four assists – which is behind only Malbranque, Berbatov, Malouda and Arteta
11th most fouled player in the entire league, winning plenty of free-kicks
45 tackles won – 7th highest in the league – higher than Butt, Clichy, Diarra, Kompany, Reo-Coker, Barry et al
991 passes attempted – behind only Lampard and Mikel
849 completed passes, behind only Mikel
Why would it be good for us to get a 14 year old Brazilian? It would hurt the confidence of our English youngsters, and it is also a needless gamble. What if actually we focussed on signing players who are finished articles?
i agree with r…denilson is the type of brazilian u DONT want!!! we shud stop buying young centre mids…we still need an experienced 1!!!! the winger sounds more promising 2 me cos ive always wanted arsenal 2 buy a flair brazilian rather then the battlers like denilson/gilberto/baptista(not sure what he actually was 2 be honest!!!ha)
can everybody hear this news are aguero might join barcelona so deres no chance dey r buyin benzema due to buyin aguero, dey would get rid of eto’o, where r da possibilities for eto’o, he wouldnt join anuda spanish team, hell go inter, arsenal or man utd, adriano might go chelsea, so deres still arsenal manutd inter left for benzema so u never no mates, n madrid r out cus dey jus bought huntelaar
i think the 18 rule is why we don’t sign many brazilians as by the time there 18 all the major clubs are aware of them which makes the transfer fee higher which we arent willing to pay.
whoa I just saw Wellington play on tv vs America and he was very very good.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_gUg_9dIM&feature=related
Wellington is the goalscorer.
great find j.
Wellington is already 16 though btw..
http://www.conmebol.com/competiciones_evento_equipos_ver.jsp?evento=1180&ano=2007&htmab=BRA&hasid=101&slangab=S
the Number 10 I’m fairly sure that’s him.
dizz said this on December 5, 2008 at 11:44 am
No thats not him his name is Wellington Alves Da Silva he was born in 93 since he played in this years premier cup
Its the same player.His full name is Wellington Alves Da Silva Aguiar.
while I know these two guys ARE coming on loan… its impossible for them to already be in London when they were in the USA today playing against the US u17 team….
Just saying ;)
Wellington and Conde just played today (and Friday) for Brazil’s u17s against the US… both were very good… Conte was the captain and is a right back…
so its a bit difficult for them to be in the US right now while trialing at Arsenal ;)
I think they both are scheduled to land in London tomorrow or Tuesday
I was living in Votuporanga, way out in the sticks, but I’m currently back in the UK.
It’s obvious that the deal with Conde is simply a case of Arsenal getting the rights to the play should he develop by 18 to a stage where Arsenal might want to sign him.
I can’t see how our scouts had not picked up Phillippe Coutinho, he plays like maradonna and will be one of the best players in the world mark my words.
I really do not think that any club could sign Coutinho seeing that heo had signed a pre-contract with Inter.
good idea of recruiting young Brazilians! Come on Arsenal is back !
this is a great thing to see…
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_gUg_9dIM
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I heard that Wellington has had a change in heart about joining us and will instead join Man Utd instead.
have we brought them