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Norwich City supporters have turned on already under fire manager Glenn Roeder and his January signings including on loan Arsenal Winger Kieran Gibbs.
Fans have even set up petitions to try and get the former Newcastle manager sacked, with the final straw coming on Saturday as his side were thumped 4-0 by Leicester City, a side six places below them in the league.
Gibbs has played just 58 minutes of football since arriving at Carrow Road on transfer deadline day on a three month Loan, and fans were clearly unhappy with his performance during the Hull City match where he made his debut, one fan on the clubs message board, “Mister Chops” said:
“Gibbs – 5.5 – obviously needs to learn and with time on the ball he might be great, but was hustled out of the game and hardly had a kick. Ended up playing inside left to try to see the ball”
Gibbs – 5 – a wimp! he’s not being pampered in the premiership now! welcome to the championship Keiren! the players are bigger than you and yes, will try and kick you! Needs to learn to give as good as he gets and want to get involved instead of worrying about his image by getting tackled by “little” Hull.
Other fans have described Gibbs as “Useless” a”Rabbit In The Headlights” and “lightweight” the opinions and other views can be found Here.
Reading this is unacceptable, we loan them one of our young players and after 58 minutes of action, they turn on him and attack him, he will need time to settle in, and a large part of settling in, is down to support from the fans, and although i know i do not speak for all Norwich fans, a cross section of them have been particularly cruel to young Kieran, almost as if they are looking for a scape goat for their poor season.
A loan spell can be a make or break moment for a player, the experience and development he gains here will stand him in good stead for the rest of his career, already Arsenal fans have been complaining that Gibbs has not featured enough for Norwich and with the attitude of the fans as it is at present i would sincerely hope we can find him another club, who will appreciate his services.
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It is inevitable that they sack Roeder because he is a shite manager. We saw that at Newcastle in how he took a top half club and turned them into a bottom half club and purchased a lot of useless players. If Roeder was my manager, I’d be pissed about his recruitment as well.
With that said, I could care less if the Norwich fans are unhappy with Gibbs commitment. However, I am unhappy about his playing time. If you loan a player ou to a club, the purpose is for that player to actually play games to get experience. If he is not getting that, he should just come back to Arsenal and play reserve games again.
Excellent Points Bubba.
Norwich’s attitude towards all the loanee’s have been poor, the two lads they got from Reading have barly been used, but back to Gibbs, i hope it doesnt end up in the same situation as Gilbert.
where he finished the loan playing for Southend’s Reserves although for a different reason
Realistically, the loan of a player to a lower league side is to toughen him up, not for sharpening technique. Though there’s less of that sort of nonsense in the Premier League, it’s still largely poplulated by the sort of duffers that prosper in the Championship. Gibbs will even have to (gasp!) get used to brickbats from the press. As long as Gibbs isn’t moaning about the slings and arrows, I’m not sure that we, as Arsenal, supporters, should be overly concerned by what supporters of these sorts of clubs think. Elitist? Probably. But who gives a monkey’s what any of them think?! They like Cro-Mag football! If Wenger and Brady think a kid is worthwhile, who the hell cares what these muppets think?! Wenger has just come out and claimed that a Euro “Super League” is inevitable, despite the “demolition” of the G14, and, as obvious players in that sphere, do we really care about a player’s ability to “get stuck in” and live up (down?) to the sort of nonsense that appeals to your average Ingerland supporter?!?!?!?! Not me. But, then, I’m not English!
You seriously need to get a sense of humour! The petition is obviously meant as a joke…despite the loss to Leicester, since Roeder arrived Norwich have racked up the points at automatic promotion pace. It was the horrendous early season under Peter Grant which doomed this campaign.
As to the comments re: Gibbs. 1) He didn’t play very well and needs to adjust to the different game in the championship. 2) The comments you quote represent a tiny, tiny proportion of Norwich fans. 3) To say we’re blaming Gibbs’ 58 minutes for the state of our season defies logic…a ludicrous thing for you to say! 4) If Gibbs performs in training he will certainly get the playing time.
What a load of old shite…1. there is no pressure on Roeder who has steered us from 6 points adrift to mid table. 2 we play football not ‘Cro Mag’ stuff the arrogance of premiership fans is staggering and I cant wait till you sod off to your world super league. 3 there has been no protest against Gibbs merely a sense of disappointment in his first appearance as he was over hyped and is being picked ahead of Darren Huckerby. 4 Gibbs will play regularly for the rest of season 5 if the writer of the article has any journalistic aspirations may I suggest you send your CV to the daily star
If Kieran Gibbs wants to swim with the sharks then he is going to have to learn to bite because know matter how much talent he might have? if he cannot make the grade in the Coca Cola Championship then he will not makeit in at Arsenal or in the English Premier League as a football player IMO
Look, I can see where these people are coming from who claim that Gibbs is there to “toughen up” — learn how to get kicked, I suppose.
But I truly worry that some of our loans haven’t been reserached and proper understandings put in place. You loan a player — no matter where he goes — so he can play. This sounds high-handed, I realize, but it’s a fact of life. If other managers want to borrow Arsenal’s talent, the payback is they have to agree to get these guys on the pitch.
If someone like Roeder, or any manager, tells Arsene that a kid will just have to wait in the queue and have a couple fistfights in training to show how tough he is in order to get a game…the hell with it. There are plenty of other teams that would gouge each other’s eyes to have Gibbs.
If the kid isn’t going to play, and play regularly, he’s better off back in the reserves — where at least everything is monitored by Arsenal staff.
I almost screamed at that response from the Norwich supporter who ticked off reasons for problem. He didn’t play very well and he has to adjust to the different game in the championship? And they’ve sussed that completely in 58 minutes, have they?
If they’re all that smart at Norwich, how’d they ever get relegated?
This is a joke: If Gibbs hadn’t been loaned out, he certainly would have been on the bench for our game v Blackburn and might well have started it as we were scraping the barrel on the left.
And the football experts at Norwich have a conclusion in 58 minutes?
Is this an unbreakble contract or can loanees be brought back at Arsenal’s discretion? Not just Gibbs, but Randall and the others. Do we have some recourse if things go badly and the player is getting set back instead of improving?
And by the way, that comment above from Kent about swimming with sharks and learning to bite and all that crap? That’s just a different way of saying, again, that the kid has been deemed a failure, a softie, whatever — after 58 damn minutes of football.
Has everyone gone mad?
I just thought of something. Maybe it isn’t just that fans are idiots at Norwich. Maybe it’s everyone.
I recall WAY too many Gooners blogging themselves to death, all screaming that Flamini was shite, Song was shite, Hleb was shite, and Adebayor? Oh, my God — shite didn’t even BEGIN to describe what a clown he was. Now they’ve conveniently forgotten all that and started in on Hoyte and Traore because we got roasted at United. Traore? What is he, 19?
And these muppets all know more than Arsene — who is a target for the sack on a few blogs today — who has proven consistently to be one of the most remarkable judges of young football talent in the world. Not once or twice, but over and over for more than a decade.
Imagine Sir Purple Nose or the Special One or any of those hot-shot managers winning the trophies Arsene’s bagged on the budget he had for a decade. Hilarious. Fergie won the league and then spent another 60 million quid. Hell, you ought to be sacked if DON’T win the treble with those resources.
What I’m trying to say here is that while obviously not all of Arsenal’s young kids will make it at the top level, Arsene works this development system better than anyone.
He’s proven he can find young talent all over the world — how good do you suppose Vela’s going to be? — and now he’s doing it in-house with English kids.
That’s one of the reasons why situations like this thing with Norwich can’t be allowed to stand. Young players like Gibbs, Randall and Merida are multi-million pound investments. Some can and probably will form the nucleus of the next great Arsenal team.
On that basis alone, Arsenal must protect their loanees and if a situation goes wrong, end it. These kids are WAY too valuable, no matter what fans — at Norwich or in Islington or anywhere else — care to think.
Our young players should never be loaned out to the knuckle heads in the lower leagues as far as I’m concerned the best place for them to learn is in Spain.
Before you all go off the deep end, not all City fans are knuckle heads as has been put, true Gibbs had a quiet game, then at the moment anyone who plays on the left for us is bound to have a quiet game. We sen everything down the right. Roeder a shite manager, not on your life he has turned this club completely round 13 games unbeaten is hardly form of someone who is shite is it.
As to a petition, I don’t know if so it is a load of bull and should be ignored, joke or no joke. How any person who claims to follow football can judge a young lad starting his career on one game is beyond me. I and several others I know look foreard to seeing just what he can do, GIVEN THE BALL.. It is unfair on him to expect so much in a such a short time.
1) There is no way fans want Glenn Roeder sacked.
2) Keiran Gibbs had a total nightmare of a debut, he was hopeless. I’m sure he will improve given a few run outs from teh subs bench
3) What do you expect the fans to write in match ratings on a player, if he has a mare he has a mare….
Oh yeah, and I see your own fans slagging off some of your own players who have had poor starts, or games for you. So get off your high and mighty perch and don’t lunp Norwich fans in some group of Wolves ;) style football fans.
California STeve wrote: “And the football experts at Norwich have a conclusion in 58 minutes?”
I can conclude that he didnt get in teh game at all and wasted the ball the few times he made himself available and got on it. He wasnt at the pace of the game and looked a fish out of water, he strolled expecting things to happen, he looked a pampered premiership youngster.
It was his first game however, if he came here with delusions of grandeur he will have lost them now and hopefully will improve when given his next opportunity.
I’m afraid the original piece isn’t very well researched and the information is wrong.
Glenn Roeder is firstly the most popular manager we have had for years and the only (yes only) criticism of him has been that he has given in to the unreasonable demands of the Premiership clubs in accomodating the young loanees that he has got in.
Harsh as it might seem Gibbs was not holding up to the Norwich players in training and so frankly wasn’t worth a game. According to hearsay Arsenal put pressure on that he should get a game or go back, so he was started against Hull and did absolutely zero. He wandered out of position and when he got the ball gave it straight back to the player who fed him. The Norwich fans were amazed he was kept on for nearly an hour particularly when that meant Huckerby was on the bench.
The errors in the report: The message board quoted is actually a local paper’s not the Clubs, the “petition” is actually one idiot starting a discussion thread (hardly a petition), the loan rules prevent all our loanees being named in a squad and with what was a winning team the loanees already in the team could hardly expect to be dropped hence the two Reading lads had to wait their turn.
We are grateful to Arsenal in letting us have Gibbs but he has no divine right to a game, he just has to be one of the best available players on the day.
Gibbs should be able to walk into the Arsenal 1st team at the moment. He is not good enough for the Championship but may look good in an underperforming Arsenal team with other young talent around him. Im sure Wenger will get rid of him before long anyway as he no doubt has his eyes on some foreign startlet.
Norwich fans have no given him a hard time at all, they have fairly summed up his performances after our matches along with any other players who have underperformed. He is 18 not 13.
I think you have to get this all in perspective.
Firstly, Roeder.
He has got Norwich from the bottom, 6 points from safety, up to 13th. He got both West Ham and Newcastle to their highest ever position in the Premier League. That petition was not working when I tried so I can’t comment on it, other than to say it must either be a joke or something from the minority of stupid fans that every club has. (Like those who, once Henry, left said that Arsene doesn’t know what he’s doing and should leave)
Secondly, Gibbs time on the pitch.
Some of the comments here are along the lines of: “If other managers want to borrow Arsenal’s talent, the payback is they have to agree to get these guys on the pitch.” I would like to correct you there, the payback is that the club loaning the player pays a fee and the wages. They don’t have to play them. It is then up to the player to warrant his place in the team. This has nothing to do with the fans and is down to how he performs in training and whether he impresses the manager.
Thirdly, as for the comments about Gibbs performance. As I mentioned earlier, you always get a minority of fans who criticise everyone. Like the Arsenal fans who last season said that Adebayor wasn’t good enough.
Finally, no-one is using Gibbs as an excuse for the poor season. Everyone would admit things have been better since he’s been in the squad. Not that it had anything directly to do with him, but it was the previous management that failed and the new that has bought some hope and a 13 game unbeaten run.
Hi Guys/Girls..
In my humble opinion, I think the negative comments which have been quoted are from a minority of so called ‘supporters’. I agree with you wholeheartedly that making your mind up about a player after only 58 minutes of play is well within the realms of ridiculous!
Bottom line? I like the look of him. Clearly Arsene is a top drawer manager and if he says the player is ‘top class’ then I will certainly remain optimistic about the lad. I’m sure we haven’t seen the best of what he can do, but realistically how many players come into a side and perform to 100% of their capability anyway…….
I for one certainly appreciate teams like Arsenal agreeing to let us use one of their youngsters, but we have (up until recently) been through a desperate period of poor results and therefore I believe this breeds desperate comments from individuals like the above.
One final thing….Jazbo……we aint ALL knuckle heads OK? That’s a poor and incorrect attitude. Life in the championship is tough and frankly you’re undermining your own manager’s opinions in what he thinks is best for his players that work for him. And yes, he could of gone to Spain…..and come in for a lot of racist abuse! Which would YOU prefer? A handful of narrowminded country bumpkins being critical or some vicious racist Europeans hurling unnecessary and unnacceptable abuse? Mull that over yeah?
Thanks for Gibbs! I hope he does well now and in his future back at your patch.
Leicester, on Saturday was our first defeat in FOURTEEN games and suddenly we make a petition. Er..Wakey wakey. It was joke. Nothing more. I’m sure Ronnie Barker can sleep in peace still if you can’t see that we make a petition for a manager to be sacked, who transformed a team 6 points adrift at the bottom to 4 points off the play off in the 3 months since he has been here, then you shouldn’t be the ones using names like Knuckle heads.
I watched Gibbs debut for Norwich and he was garbage. Worst player on the pitch. His touch was awful, he had one shot from 20yards that looked like a pass back to the corner flag, and he was getting pushed off the ball constantly. He looked uninterested and lazy. He was not very good. Simple as that.
We have a player from Man City. Ched Evans, we worship him, he works his socks off every game and has scored some cracking goals.
I haven’t dismissed Gibbs as a player, nothing of the sort, he is a Arsenal wizzkid of course but if ANY player isn’t pulling his weight when he pulls on a Norwich shirt, we will say. From Gibbs to Gilberto to Giggs.
Thanks for the link Jamie ;)
The Norwich fans are certainly quick to jump at the players + the manager aren’t they? I feel sorry for Gibbs, he was loaned to them to get some experience and instead he’s being attacked for the poor results they have been getting.
Get it sorted Norwich fans.
The word Scapegoat comes to mind.
You’ve missed the point. The page linked to was a joke. The Norwich fans a) love Roeder and b) like Gibbs. Settle down Beavis.
Scapegoat is right to an extent, however, GR has broken up a winning side to accomodate Gibbs and the other loanees. For what reasons we don’t know, but KG looked like a kid playing his first mens game and I think most of the crowd were hoping for a bit more from him.
Hopefully he’ll prove what he can do, as I have no doubt he has talent.
Is it common for gooners to spit their dummies so badly when one of their youngsters has a bad game for another club. To an extent that you start making things up? Why on earth would we want to get rid of Roeder. We had 8 points from 17 games at the bottom of the table when h arrived and he has steadied the ship and our 4-0 defeat to Leicester was our first defeat in 14 games and we still have a chance of the play offs. The guy has performed near miracles to pull this off. The only thing we are annoyed about is the number of loan signings we have taken on, we had 7 at one point and only 5 can be included in the squad. But our first team squad is so thin there is little we can do about our predicament. Roeder is findig himself in a difficult position of having to break up a successful team to incorporate the loan signings to keep their various club managers satisfied. It’s not ideal and it is frustrating for all concerned. I hope Gibbs is a success but it is understanable we can only judge him on what we see match by match. He is certain to start this weekend, probably in central midfield due to suspensions so he has another bite of the cherry and we would obviously love him to be a success, as much as you would.
And as for his Newcastle record….
Bubba said “It is inevitable that they sack Roeder because he is a shite manager. We saw that at Newcastle in how he took a top half club and turned them into a bottom half club and purchased a lot of useless players.”
He got them from the bottom 5 to finish 7th and win the interto cup. So how many Newcastle managers can claim they have one silverware in recent years? (howmany English teams have tried to win intertoto and failed?), and are there many Newcastle managers who have had such a high finish in their firs season in recent years? As for his signings at newcastle Duff, Martins, Sibierski? Not exactly classed as flops in the North East.
The petition is a joke, Norwich fans love Roeder; and Gibbs is an average player but to be fair he is up against Ryan Bertrand of Chelsea who is a class act, Darren Huckerby and Matty Pattinson, so Gibbs is probably the weakest player we have on our left side, but I am sure he will get better and he will play many games so relax gooners!
Scapegoat!!!!! He played 58 minutes of the 1-1 draw with Hull and looked poor, that is about the size Keiran Gibbs city career so far. He will be playing again Saturday at home to Barnsley – I’m sure Keiran and us Norwich fans will be hoping he puts in a better showing than his last one – I am sure he is capable of far far more! :)
As for our poor season – only two men are responsible for that – Peter Grant and Jim Duffy.
“…and instead he’s being attacked for the poor results they have been getting…”
What poor results?! We were unbeaten in FOURTEEN!?!
I think you’ll find the ‘petition’ is a joke.
Really guys, if you want to know what NCFC fans think, the Pink Un messageboard is the absolute worst place to look! There’s barely a poster on there without his own pathetic “look at me” agenda.
Try asking someone who knows before accusing us all of having a poor attitude?
Guys…..
You might just need to calm down a little. All of the fans that I have spoken to during the game and the ‘down the pub’ converstaions are positive about him. Don’t judge a club and its supporters on a minority of moaners who can never see the good in anything. I believe ALL clubs have a proportion of those……even Arsenal!
Maybe the moaners just aren’t getting enough….ermmmmm….’action’ back at home. But maybe that’s just because their sisters are starting to see that there is more to life than sleeping with your own brother. You know what Norfolk is like yeah? Haw haw.. Have a good week and good luck with the CL. Hope you do well.
The poor resultS, plural? Norwich were on a 13 game unbeaten run. Gibbs goes into the side, they scrape a point against Hull AT HOME and then lose 4-0 to leicester. Far from beinga “scapegoat for their bad season”, perhaps he actually has upset the balance of a side clearly on the up and has turned their results for the worse.
Fact of the matter is, he might not be all as good as we thought. We’ve seen it before when we rated players only for them never to develop.
How de we know he’s not been given playing time? Half of you think Norwich have been having poor results, yet they’ve gone 13 games unbeaten until this weekend! I’m guessing you haven’t been checking their squad list out very often!
Get over yourselves people. These championship clubs aren’t crap, they are still at a decent level – ask Liverpool fans! – if Gibbs isn’t cutting it, then perhaps it’s not because some Nrowich fans are moaning at him (aaah bless him, poor little lad, you’d think he was being paid thousands of pounds a week or something. Oh wait a minute…..), but perhaps it’s because we all over-rated him.
those opinions are NOT shared by the majority of us including glen roeder who can do little wrong for us as manager. this was what he said about kieron gibbs after the hull game……It was a big game for Kieran Gibbs to come into and I’m not disappointed with what he did,” said Roeder. “We starved him of the ball in the first half and that’s not his fault. From what I’ve seen in training, I can see why Arsene Wenger thinks he’s one of his top young talents. He’s 18 years old and I think in a couple of years, you won’t recognise him as the young player we saw in this game. He’s extremely talented.”
“The Norwich fans are certainly quick to jump at the players + the manager aren’t they? I feel sorry for Gibbs, he was loaned to them to get some experience and instead he’s being attacked for the poor results they have been getting.
Get it sorted Norwich fans.”
Sorry, but you’re talking 100% rubbish. I think you should get your facts right first mate. Here at Norwich we love Glenn Roeder. We hated Peter Grant because he merely screamed and ranted at players and hence caused a loss in confidence which resulted in 8 points by the end of October and certain relegation. Glenn Roeder came in and changed things. He had us on a run of 13 games unbeaten and put us within 4 points of playoffs. We’ve only just lost that run because of Leicester.
You claim Gibbs has been attacked for poor results – you mean the one game we’ve lost since December 1st? You get many fans who are idiots and jump on the back of players who underperform in one game – I’m sure you Gooners have PLENTY of utter crapheads who get on the back of any player who doesn’t settle in the first few games. If you look at our messageboards you’ll realise that the more sensible of us actually believe Kieran will be a great, great player. He’s got pace and technique (like he should coming from Arsenal), BUT he’s lightweight and got bullied a bit when he played. He hasn’t had much gametime, but rest assured he’ll get more and will be given a chance to get going – Roeder always gives players a chance to prove themselves. He’s not got us in this position by wrecking each player’s confidence after one bad performance or so. He even stated himself that Kieran got starved of the ball a bit when he played for us and that it needs to be addressed. We’ll be looking to get back on a run again, starting against Barnsley next and I’m sure Kieran will feature in the coming games.
As for being GUARANTEED starts and first choice – pure crap. If he looks good at Arsenal and then comes here and finds it difficult then my arse is he going to start every game and oust players who’ve taken us on an unbeaten run of 13 games. He’s admitted that he needs to impress to start because people in the starting 11 have been doing their jobs. Like I said before though, he’ll get his chances and he won’t just be a bench-warmer like some loanees are. So get yourself sorted and don’t just read into the headline.
that horse is very high
Norwich fan here, got to reply to some of these comments firstly
“he was loaned to them to get some experience and instead he’s being attacked for the poor results they have been getting.
Get it sorted Norwich fans.”
Poor results? Until the Leicester game, where Gibbs was only a sub, we’d been 13 games unbeaten.
He’s started one game for us, and he looked like what he is,a kid playing with the grown ups for the first time. He’ll come good with time I am sure, but don’t be so arrogant as to presume we should happily let our results suffer for your benefit!
Norwich Fan in peace
I don’t know where all this has come from, but Roeder is hailed a hero in Norwich at present, just like you worship Wenger. Quite right to, as he has turned relegation certainty into promotion outsiders.
As far as Gibbs is concerned, he is a young man learning his trade. He has been loaned to us to help that education. Norwich played badly against Hull and Gibbs was no exception. He did look very lightweight and did not get into the game. He was also played out of position I believe. But hopefully he will have gained from the experience and will benefit from it.
As you know before Roeder arrived, we were down and out. All our players were playing badly and lacked confidence. Those same players are now playing well.
Arsenal are not a bad team because they lost on Saturday and neither is Gibbs because he got slated by a few mindless fans.
Keep a perspective and please stop slating other clubs fans, just because you don’t agree with them
What the? “A poor run of results…” Well I guess 1 defeat in 14 might be seen as a run of poor results in the alternative dimension that you seem to inhabit.
Smells of not having much to write about so lets make something up.
This is probably one of the best non-company website on Newsnow Arsenal, if not THE best. Keep it up!
Firstly no Norwich fan is calling for roeders head! I don’t know where you heard this! Secondly when we loaned Gibbs off you Wenger knew we already had 6 loan players so Gibbs would have to fight for his place, Wenger must trust Roeder. Having previously offered him a job as youth develodment manager you’d figure that Wenger realises, along with most Norwich fans, that Glenn knows what he’s doing.
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OMG!! how dumb are you gooners reading this story? have any of you clicked on the link to the ‘petitions’ for roeder’s sacking? they’re clearly a joke. let me spell this out for you numpties: norwich under peter grant (and caretaker jim duffy) – 13 games, 8 points. norwich under roeder – 20 matches, 34 points. that’s not far off 2 points a game, and if you numbskulls can take a second to work this out, you’ll see that since roeder came in we’ve been on almost championship-winning form. sacking roeder would be madness!
as for gibbs – please note that roeder’s brought in the loan players primarily as cover. i don’t care how good the lad gibbs is supposed to be, there is no way any player should walk into the line-up of a side that, until saturday, was on a 13 match unbeaten run. in fact, i think gibbs has had more play time than he should’ve been given – he was started against hull when in my opinion we should have kept the winning lineup from the cardiff match, and he’s started against leicester despite a subdued performance in the match against hull. you also cannot generalise our attitude towards loan players like that – matthew bates came straight into our side at right back and did well until an unfortunate knee injury forced him to go back to middlesborough.
in conclusion, this entire thread (and the large majority of comments on it) smacks of ignorance. if it wasn’t meant in jest, then i seriously fear for the author. you moaning gooners (especially the ones needlessly slagging off roeder, don’t forget he had a 40% win ratio at newcastle, that’s better than keegan or allardyce) should all take a long hard look at yourselves.
you lot need to get over losing to Man Utd and concentrate on the EPL and not worry about Gibbs. He was poor against Hull and needs now to prove that he should get back in our team. just because he is from “Arsenal” does not mean he should walk straight into the Norwich team. Maybe u haven’t followed Norwich’s season but Roeder came in when we were in the bottom 3 and 1 bad result wont make us turn on him.
Glen Roeders Green Army!
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Absolutely classic, first you quote a wind-up survey as being representational of Norwich fans opinion, then you justify every single fan’s opinion of Premiership fans by quoting every stereotype possible. Nobody has jumped on Roeder’s back AT ALL – the link is a mickytake cos online petitions were the favourite a few months ago when everyone was trying to get Grant the sack – try reading the URL of the link if you dont believe it!
DO NOT tell us what to think of players wearing a Norwich shirt, if they are not good enough everyone is entitled to their own opinion – just because you don’t want to agree with it doesn’t mean its wrong!
The facts are:
1) Wenger trusts Roeder’s judgement – this was the guy that was being lined up for the DoF role at Arsenal
2) Norwich were unbeaten in 13 before Saturday, Roeder is hardly likely to make massive team/squad changes given that fact
3) Gibbs is being picked ahead of Hucks, what more do you want
4) Gibbs looked vunerable and out of his depth a bit on Saturday, but thats not exactly saying much given we lost 4nil on a cabbage patch pitch
5) “If they’re all that smart at Norwich, how’d they ever get relegated?” erm 3 words – “Nigel” “Worthington” and “tactics” spring to mind – completely irrelvant to the current topic
6) “If other managers want to borrow Arsenal’s talent, the payback is they have to agree to get these guys on the pitch.” Hilarious – are you really that arrogant that you believe this? If he’s good enough he’ll get his chance, but none of the Norwich players have a divine right to play so why should a borrowed Arsenal player have a different set of rule!
Whats the bet you ignore this thread and don’t publish it?
1. The views are a very tiny proportion of Norwich City fans.
2. The Roeder out petition is a joke, he has done a superb job in his short time there. Surely you can see that??!!
3. Gibbs didn’t have the best of debuts, even Kieran himself would acknowledge that I’m sure.
4. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
No wounder your called gooners, The sack Glen comments are a joke because we lost our first game in 14. As for the loan players, they are in safe hands at C R.
Right, we are not slating Gibbs, we are just saying when he has had the chance to play, he’s done sweet FA.
We are not turning on Glenn Roeder, what he has done for us is magic, from being 5 points adrift at the foot of the table in november, to 13th, 9 points the play offs in January/February. Gibbs has not been slated for our results, i would like to know how they were ‘poor’ when we went 13 games unbeaten.
All we are saying is that we are expecting more from Gibbs than we are getting. That’s all
Thanks collectively for the sporadically patronising assessment of Championship football.
Thankfully Arsene knows that his “multi-million pound investment” won’t be realised unless he gets a bit of action in a first team somewhere, and for all your frankly outrageous references to “lower league knuckleheads” (seriously, sort yourself out) the Championship remains one of the biggest 5 or 6 leagues in Europe.
If you’d have read the assessment of Gibbs’ 58 minute performance you’ll have seen that Roeder acknowledged that he’d been starved of the ball, and took full responsibility for his non-performance, stating that it didn’t reflect his potential – and (as a season ticket holder) I can confirm that most Norwich fans share that opinion.
The reality is that Gibbs isn’t getting in because Lee Croft is keeping him out of the side. This isn’t to say that Croft is a better player but, and this is critical to you understanding the nature of these loan moves, he is currently more effective.
The reason players come on loan is to learn to be effective, not to be talented. In his 58 minutes, Gibbs did nothing to force himself onto the game – he waited for the ball to come to him. When he got it, he moved it on at an even pace – nothing wild. What he needs to learn to do, and will learn to do at Norwich, is to actually impose himself onto the game and take it by the scruff of the neck and actually change the pace of the game.
This is a learning point you’ll be familiar with from several of your current younger players – you’ll note that Fabregas’s rise to superstardom coincides exactly with the point that he started to take responsibility for the pace of Arsenal’s attack.
Gibbs, Randall and any of your other young players will never get that kind of opportunity amongst the super-star Arsenal first team. It’s also the reason why the hyped Walcott is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Seriously, you should have a think before being too condemning of Championship football – the size of your club stands for nothing on the pitch, and you risk sounding like Man Utd fans.
Jed
p.s. some of you should do some Roeder research – a close personal friend and confidant of Wenger, he’s also statistically the most successful Newcastle Manager since Keegan left the first time.
couple of things boys. poor results, we were on a unbeaten run until the weekend. scape goat for their poor season, the kid has only arrived since we have been playing well. thus we do not need a scape goat as are not having a poor season, just a poor start. he will need time to settle in, this maybe true if we had bought he but we have only got him on loan, meaning he only has a short period of time with norwich and can not be afforded time to settle. as one person said on here was arsenal fans wanted to get rid of Flamini because he was not good. where was his settling period?
He didn’t play very well and he has to adjust to the different game in the championship? And they’ve sussed that completely in 58 minutes, have they? yes we have, and to be fair it is not rocket science to know if someone has play well or not. and as most of you have bleated on about the championship is a different game to the premiership. also i would interested to hear your experince of running a football club as you all seem to know so much.
Gibbs is class. Norwich fans do not recognise the quality player they have been loaned.
I don’t think i have ever seen a more ill-informed article than this. I will run through the points one by one.
1) Just because you loan us a player does not mean that we have any obligation to play him. Just because he comes from Arsenal’s reserve side does not give him any special rights and he will get in the side on merit if he deserves to.
2)To say that we don’t treat our loan players well is also rubbish, Bertrand, Taylor,Pattison & Camara have all come to Norwich on loan since Roeder joined the club, and all have played reguarly. If Gibbs isnt getting a game it is because he is not good enough, not because he is on loan.
3)I have not heard one Norwich fan question Roeder since he has come in – why would we? he has picked up points at a rate worthy of automatic promotion. I suggest that the petition’s tag line of “bring back Peter Grant” should give some sort of clue that this was set up as a joke.
4)Gibbs is learning a key lesson at Norwich – you have to earn the right to play, you cant come in and expect to go straight into the first XI straight away.
5) I have read on some websites calls for Arsene Wenger to be sacked when you almost finished 5th a couple of years ago – if I took that as being representative of your fans opinions then i would be at the same level of this article – making ridiculous generalisations from a very small sample of information
Norwich have been on a good run recently. You cannot expect to arrive as a youngster and immediately get in the starting eleven of a side doing well. The loanees arrived in the transfer window. People must look at the whole picture and all the facts. Those youngsters are not on the books of premiership clubs because they do not have the talent to become top class players. We at Norwich are glad to have those youngsters. Look at how well Ched Evans has done. Who could take his place right now. Its all down to taking your chance when it comes along. Gibbs will be fine as will the others. Norwich supporters are a great bunch of people. You shouldn’t always believe everything you read in the paper, we don’t! :-)
Can any Arsenal players take any critism at all? We say that Gibbs had a dodgy game- well he did. Everyone did, the highest player rating from that game was a 7.
In terms of jumping on to managers? I’m assuming that was a joke. We gave ample time to Worthington despite 2 poor seasons, Grant got a season, but i think everyone could see he wasn’t up to the standard at that time. As for Roeder, he’s a hero. Taken the club from 4 points adrift at the bottom to mid-table safety. I can assure you that no norwich fan wants Roeder to leave.
This is probably the most uneducated dribble I have ever had the missfortune of reading.
Firstly, NO ONE at NCFC is calling for Roeder to be sacked. Prior to Staurday we had lost 1 in 16 and were well and truly on the up. A hammering by a lesser side in Leicester does not mean that we want GR to get the ax….far from it, we want him to continue doing what he’s doing and building a sturdy team.
Secondly, I have personally seen Gibbs play twice, and I agree he needs more time to adjust to Norwich first team – but do you not think that EVERY fan has a right to have their opinion on him after seeing him play!? It’s not just Gibbs that got lambasted after the Hull (draw) and Leicester (loss)…there was a good 3 or 4 City players that didn’t play no where near as bad as said Gooner did and they got just as much critism.
Yes, we do need to see Gibbs play more before we can judge him properly, but just because he is from Arsenal doesnt give him the God given right to START EVERY MATCH. He has to earn it…and judging by his past two performances he has well and truly not.
NO ONE blames Gibbs for bad results….BECAUSE WE HAVE ONLY HAD 2 BAD RESULTS IN 17!!! Do your homework.
What a truly diabolical piece of web journalism. Taking a few comments and an ironic joke petition to create an article on. Have you really got nothing better to write about. I haven’t seen Gibbs play but we have other youngsters on loan from the Prem including Evan (Man C) and Bertrand (Chels) who have done extremely well so far. Just because your ‘golden boy’ has failed to shine so far I’m shocked that you have gone and attacked Norwich fans in this way. Its about time some of you high and mighty ‘arm chair’ fans woke up and realised what it is like to support a real club with real supporters who don’t see finishing second in the premiership as falling on hard time.
All that aside, congratulations on your FA cup result yesterday!
What rubbish, speaking as a Norwich fan I can confidently say that in general Norwich fans have not turned on Gibbs or indeed Roeder. We were unbeaten in thirteen games until Saturday, Roeder is a genius! I am looking forward to seeing Gibbs develop during his time here, and I’m sure with a few games under his belt he will return to you a much improved player. I suggest you practice your journalistic skills and try and use other resources than internet message boards, which hardly give a fair reflection of opinion as you do not know who has written what.
This is absolutely ludicrous!!! I don’t know where to start!
“The Norwich fans are certainly quick to jump at the players + the manager aren’t they? I feel sorry for Gibbs, he was loaned to them to get some experience and instead he’s being attacked for the poor results they have been getting.
Get it sorted Norwich fans.”
This quote is so devoid of any truth it’s funny. WHy are you slagging off Norwich without any evidence? Just because you support Arsenal doesn’t mean you are clever, that quote highlights the pomposity of many premier league clubs. Beleive me, Glenn Roeder is God in Norwich. He has taken us from certain relegation to outside playoff contenders. WE have only lost 2 in 17 league games and until Saturday we were on a 13 game unbeaten run. We have gone from bottom and 6 points from safety to 13th and closer to playoffs than relegation in a 3 months.
What is wrong with giving a player a match rating of 5 or 5.5 if he had a poor game? You used to insult Adebayor and look at him now. Gibbs had a poor game, so we express what we saw. The reason he hasn’t played is because we were on a 13 game unbeaten run, you don’t change a winning team unless you have to. Roeder has said he will play the new loanees if they impress in training and when they are given the chance.
“Norwich’s attitude towards all the loanee’s have been poor”
Again, people are just inventing drivel. Have you forgotten David Bentley?! You loaned him to us, we played him most games and look what he’s gone on to achieve. I’m not saying his success was down to us but clearly his spell at Carrow Road did him no harm. This season we have loaned Ched Evans (Man City), Ryan Bertrand (Chelsea) and Mo Camara (Derby) who have been key to our revival and I’m sure they have benefitted. Matt Bates (M’boro) won a place in our team but had to return up North after a serious knee injury (I bet u think that’s our fault!). The winger, Henry, has been given a chance and played OK. Henry and Pearce have both been on the banch most games they have been here.
I conclude by saying that Gibbs is more than welcome to stay at Carrow Road. I’m sure he is strong enough to fight for a first tema place. It is stupidly arrogant to EXPECT him to walk into our team because we are championship club. Anyway, you can recall him after our next game I believe. Many people on this board need to sort out their attitude towards lower teams. Unfortunately not every club has your money, scouting network, stadium or players! We rely on teams like Arsenal to help us out by loaning players you don’t need in the short term.
Send the kid to Ipswich, we would welcome the lad and give him a chance. In my view you bring a player in on loan because you need the cover & intend to play them and possibly wish to secure their services on a permanent basis if they fit in (and you can afford them).
If you leave the lad on the bench it benefits no one. However, Roeder has turned Norwich around, much to my annoyance!
OMG! You lot are absolute idiots. London arrogance springs to mind. Not a single person I know has had a go at Gibbs. He’ll be a decent player when he gets up to speed. As for the Roeder out petition, it’s a joke! 13 games unbeaten and then we lose one, get him out! ;o)
I’m a Norwich season ticket holder and I’m disappointed that you have picked up on comments from our minority. It was a poor team performance against Hull that night, to single out any individual for that match against Hull is rubbish. Gibbs arrived here with a lot of good things being said about him, I hope he steps up to the plate, proves our minority wrong and your majority right. A loan like this is good business for both clubs, I’m sure it’ll do the lad and our club loads of good.
Haven’t quite finished. The quotes you have taken from the link are out of context. Gibbs was given low ratings because he played badly, as were many other players on our team. As it happened we played poorly and got 1-1 draw against Hull after having won our 3 previous games.
It is because we watch teams like Arsenal and Man Utd on Mtach of the day that we are so critical. We wish our team could play like that but we CAN’T. Hence, our fans gave everyone low ratings becuase we didn’t play to our standard. I believe if you took other quotes from the linked page, this article would have had a different tone. The following seem more appropriate to a decent article:
Gibbs: 4- My god what a pointless cameo he played. Clearly in the team to please Arsenal and didn’t contribute at all. Don’t get me wrong, with a couple of games under his belt he could come good, and I really hope he does.
Gibbs – 4 – looked out of his depth and was almost anonymous. Should remeber it was his first ever league game – give him time.
Other cricisms are genuine, just because you think he is good (I bet 90% of Arsenal fans haven’t seen this guy kick a ball), doesn’t mean he is going to set the wrold alight in his first game for us. If our fans think he played rubbish, we have every right to say so just as you and we would for any other player. I hear you lot aren’t singing praises for Traore or Hoyte after thier performances this weekend.
Stop being so fickle and jumping to the defence of a player you don’t even know! I want him to suceed at Norwich and in the future for Arsenal but he isn’t going to improve if he plays awful and gets into out team every week.
How can comeone be class when they haven’t played, and when they have they have been poor?! As an arsenal fan, you are making a mockery out of us from reading some of these comments posted on this site. J. Sanderson, you’re a child for inciting such tosh in your article. Get the proper facts before writing things…if you saw the state of norwich at the beginning of the season then you, and these other idiotic band wagon jumpers wouldn’t be talking such tripe. You are making yourself, arsenal and these so-called football fans (who, for some reason, believe what you say) look like morons. Grow up as we all know Gibbs will get his chance and if he doesn’t take it and can’t make it in the championship, then why do we want him at Arsenal?! Take your issues out on the first team that got whooped at the weekend…thats what matters.
Norwich fan here. Though I should clarrify the confusion that must have led to this – Other than the leicester result, we’ve been on great form. No one has been calling for Roeder to be sacked. We love him and that poll must have been a joke. He took us from bottom of the table when he got here, to within a few points of the playoffs (and within half a season). Regarding Gibbs and the Hull match – Gibbs didn’t play that well and was substituted on 58 minutes by the manager for a like for like player, Matty Pattison (from Newcastle) who is more of a physical presence in the centre. It’s that simple. The other loanees we have had have had mixed success. We play Ched Evans from Man City every game, he’s going to be a premiership great. The others have had the occasional look in but prior to the leicester game haven’t really been able to get into an in form team.
“Fans have even set up petitions to try and get the former Newcastle manager sacked, ”
If you even looked at that post it was a joke, perhaps you should have investigated the link posted…
http://www.cluck13gamesunbeatenwestillhateroederandtheboard.com
having said that it is a good site you have here, very impressive!! :)
tosh and piffle. A poorly researched article.
Funny how none of the Norwich fans comments are getting printed. Talk about biased. I have taken the time along with around 150+ NCFC supporters to flood various sites and let them know the COMPLETE crap your talking. Enjoy you gooner cunt
Greetings from the Gambia. Your site is filled with interesting talking points and is very enjoyable
Gibbs has played shite since joining us, how can you Arsenal fans justify saying that he’s amazing?!he’s out of his depth in the Championship, so instead of criticising Norwich, Wenger should have sent him out to a Conference team, where he might have a slight chance of making a 1st team
Is this some kind of perverse wind up? Glenn Roeder should be given the freedom of Norwich, the man is a miracle worker. We were rooted to the bottom of the table and six points adrift of safety when he took over. Three months later and people are talking of the play offs having just ended a 13 game unbeaten run at the weekend!! As for this Gibbs bloke, I’ve not seen enough of him to form an opinion, although I’m guessing its a damn sight more than you’ve seen considering how misinformed you seem to be on a lot of things.
Time to provide some facts – Gibbs hasnt been given a chance by Norwich, but trust me he will. Roeder admitted in the press that we starved him of the ball while he was on the pitch at Hull, and didnt get the chance to impress. Another fact – Gibbs’ favoured position is left midfield (am I right?) which has been owned by another loanee Ryan Bertand from Chelsea who really does look a class player for the future. At least Norwich try to play football the right way – and I do take offence to the comment above about the knuckleheads in the lower divisions – grow up for fucks sake!! As for the comments about Roeder until the game against Leicester we had been unbeaten for 13 games hardly the form of a so called shite manager.
yes we do recognise how good gibbs is, he is class thats why wenger handed him a contract last year. please do not take the muppets on that web site seriously. the majority of the posters on there are so negative and do not reflect the opinions of the majority of us supporters who go to the games week in week out. as roeder said we starved gibbs of the ball with our tactics during the hull game, when played in the right position against barnsly on saturday i’m sure he will be awsome!
I think Gibbs is a perfectly good player and i do not believe that Norwich fans as a whole are not in favour of his being on loan with us. Also i reject the idea that having a player on loan means that he has to play for the team week in, week out, especially considering that we are now pushing (hopefully) for the play offs and need to play our best team fromm training etc, which if Gibbs isnt a part of, so be it, he stuck out as quality in your reserves and i am sure that he is a fantastic talent for the future, but again, as stated before – many bloggers are quick to jump at things such as the players, but not all, indeed it is the minority who jump on bandwagons, not the majority. As to our manager – an unbeaten run of 13 games for a team taht was bottom of the league in october – why would we want to sack him? indeed, he is being linked with other jobs as a result of his fantastic performance. Your own manager recommended Norwich because he knows that they play the right kind of football and will help him develop his game. I am all for giving him a chance with us and have seen flashes of his brilliance! Long live the relationship between the gunners and the canaries!
Chris you dope get your head out of your arse and realise that we have only had ONE poor result since GIBBS has been here and that was saturday v leicester. So how can he be attacked for us winning the last 13 games…….. DICK…….!!!!!!
Loan players never play well enough for Championship sides.
What is everyone talking about??? I’m a Norwich fan and saw Gibbs in action for his 58 mins, and, fair enough, he wasn’t brilliant, but that’s mainly because we didn’t supply him. Lee croft was raping their left back, so he saw all of the ball. And i don’t know what you’re having a go at roeder for…we were unbeaten in 13 games under him. And we blame our rubbish season on the appaling start under then manager Peter Grant. So lay off everyone, Gibbs will be fine and Roeder will stay.
they obviously dont know anyhting about football…how can they say he is useless after 58 mins??… ignorant idiots…he is class and im sure he will make it at arsenal… then those idiot norwich fans will be kicking themselves for slating him…and about glenn roder… he has actully doing well… they were close to relegation when he took over and they are almost in the top half of the table… cluless idiots!!
Agree with Chris bout the scapegoat part…
Wake-up Matt – it’s the author of the article who is clearly clueless. The petition to sack Roeder is known as “irony”. And Gibbs was disappointing on his debut, but I’m sure there’s more to come.
Where have all the comments from the “Arsenal fans” gone now that you’re all a bit red faced?
On a side note, this is a well thought out and developed site. Shame about this article though, it needed a little more research and thought.
Nice to see that the Moderator has caught up and published all the NCFC comments now.
I guess the balance has been addressed that Norwich is still a good club to send classy players too and when they are ready for the team they will get the opportunity.
Hopefully young Gibbs will grab the opportunity but he needs to show some hunger otherwise I suspect not only will he not make the Norwich first team, but he will not make the Arsenal one either!
Matt, what are you playing at?! You are as dumb as the rest, and I am appalled at the way our fans have jumped on board this one. If our (Arsenal) players can’t play at that level, what’s the point in keeping him?! If he does well he will be given his chance with us too. The Norwich fans have every right to feel aggrieved over this ridiculous article based on one or two Norwich fans over zealous comments. A scapegoat?! What the….scapegoat for what? You even said yourself they have been doing well. Think before you make comments, like the rest of the moronic comments from gooners on here. I think you and the rest of our fans that have made comments are using Norwich as a scapegoat for our abysmal showing at United…out of the cup and the league hots up (it’s all to obvious people are using this to distract themselves from our creaming ((with hundreds and thousands)) and the challenge ahead). Sort it out.
hopefully now you gooners are seeing that not all canary fans are twats! good luck against ac milan
Who the fuck do Norwich think they fucking are bunch of wankers who think they’re hard.
You make me so proud to be an arsenal fan RJP. Very clever, have you actually read any of the comments? You sad, pathetic loser (prick in language you can understand as I know that would be far too complex for you). Get a life, or preferrably jump and lose one.
we are norwich rjp, we are from the east and since the end of october, we play decent football, considering the funds, players and league we are currently associated with :) we tried the hard-nut-long-ball-lets-hoof-it-and-hope-while-we-batter-the-opposition-with-our-long-ball-tactics-approach under our last manager and surprisingly it didnt work.. however, new manager – classier, passing football :)
To all English fans including “Norwich City” yes slag off our 18 year old player…who is probably the best player you can dream to ever have.
Keep it up with the kick & hoof football that all English players know too well, and end up out of any international competition as you normally do.
Gibbs was F***ing rubbish. I hope wenger proves me wrong but this guy was awful and had to be taken off to spare not only his blushes but to make sure we didn’t lose 4 or 5 to 1 because of him.
I love all you arsenal fans telling norwich whos who and whats what. Did any of you simpletons go to the game? No? Then how could you say how good he was or wasn’t.
The whole thing has been blown out of proportion as someone said. The majority of the above articles are repeating eachother. As an arsenal fan obviously i am looking for gibbs to do well but at the end of the day this is championship football and its all about results. Gibbs has loads of quality from what i have seen of him and i think he will come good. However the championship maybe the most physical league and he may find it hard to adjust in a short time. im sure like all real football fans norwich city fans will get behind whoever pulls on their teams shirt and are entitled to an opinion of how they played. to me it only becomes a problem of a young player out on loan when A) he is not playing whatsoever or B) fans r getting on his back during a game. Hopefully neither of these things will happen.
you sound like the interlectual type rjp well done for that mate thanks for your contribution! You do realise you are an embarressment to your football club. I think you can see that this article is clearly false and has been summed up rather well reading the comments above. I couldn’t have put it better myself. We probably play the most attractive football in the league thats why Wenger let Gibbs come to Norwich with many other clubs wanting him. I think you Arsenal fans need to open your eyes to reality and concentrate on your own problems i.e a 4 – 0 loss to Man U and a 5 – 1 defeat to TOTTENHAM was it?
Yeah, I know everything’s been said but as I posted the thread on the “petition” (and just to confirm it for those poor souls who took it seriously – look up “irony” in a dictionary. Also I didn’t write it myself, I took the thing from another site just to make a point) I thought I’d have a say. If Wenger rates Gibbs then he must have something about him, however he didn’t make an impact against Hull but it’s far too early to judge him. Also he didn’t make the pitch when we got thumped by Leicester at the weekend so he can’t be blamed there. He needs more of a chance before we jump on his back though, but what we have seen of him so far isn’t great though he was definitely starved of the ball in the Hull game. He has no right to a place in the team, however – he will get in on merit, just like the other guys. Finally Roeder has done an awesome job and I hope he gets the required backing in the summer to build his own team and have a proper tilt at the play-offs.
no player at any club is granentied a place, Huckerby has been world class for us in the past few seasons and he’s not being played, simply to let the youth come through. There will allways be 2 loan players droped this season simply because we have 7 players on load and only 5 can be included in the squad, that leaves two players out. i cant see Evans being dropped simply because he put his all in every time he played and Bertrand have played a good game but if he now have a bad game or two he may well be dropped to let another player in. Wenger should not expect any of his loaned player to play every game. 1 loss in 14 games in an exeptional turn around espicially considering we swere 6 points adrift at the bottem, im sure most managers well struggle to beat that that post on the pinkun was a bit of humor so take it light hartedly.
@@@@ ME all this fuss over a teenager.As a gooner i take this as a compliment that so much is expected from one of our youngsters,but its wrong to measure youngsters against Messi,Fabregas and Rooney etc; these players are exceptional and very few and far between,Gibbs is more than decent he will prove that in the years to come.
Well, your plan to get shed-loads of replies for an unreasonable initial blog worked.
A few points for you Norwich fans, speaking as someone who went to every Arsenal game for 15 years, home and away, I’m not the spoiled premiership pansy that you seem to think all gooners are.
1/ Don’t give a toss what anyone thinks of Roeder. nothing against him, he’s learning his trade, at a little village club
2/ Don’t give a toss what Norwich fans think, and yes, you always have been nuckle-draggers.
3/Loanees go to lower division clubs to develop, they can only do this by playing. You either play them or hand them back so they can get experience elsewhere. It’s not fair to the players to take them as spare cover for injuries, if you think they’re not good enough, send them back, simple as that.
4/ Darren Huckerby is a fat useless old tart and should be running a chip shop, not squeezing into a hideous yellow top and embarrassing himself on your mudheap.
What Arsenal fans need to realise is that Jas the Barclay “King” talks about nonsense and does not know the first thing about Football! He posts messages as if his opinion is right and either loves or hates every player. Most Norwich fans on the Pinkun know that!
I personally think this is some sort of crap windup as an attempt for someone to get more hits on their site.
A few of the Arsenal fans on this thread have really shown their ignorance about English football (the original author of the article included). Hack and Hoof? have you seen Norwich play in the past couple of months?
Maybe instead of glory supporting you should all start going to your local clubs, and actually watch some proper football, rather than just watching the Premiership on Sky everyweek, you never know, some of you may even learn something about football outside the Premiership
Gibbs was useless agaisnt Hull. He was completly out of his depth. But if Wenger says he is good then he must be good. He needs time. You have qouted two match reviews, and 5 is about right for his appearnce in the match.
” Hack and Hoof ”
Eboue springs to mind on this one!
And hoofing was all we saw when arse nil lost 4-0 to Man Utd and 5-1 to TOTTENHAM!
Amazing article ;)