Arsenal flew into Hungary yesterday afternoon ahead of tonight’s fixture against Szombathelyi Haladás, and whilst the main focus ahead of the game was around various first team players, Arsène Wenger has stuck to his guns by taking several of the Reserves squad.
The Gunners will be spending the next two days in Hungary before taking the short flight to the traditional training camp in Austria, with a game already lined up in the form of an Burgenland XI. Many of the first team players have returned from their summer breaks, but as promised after the 2-1 win over Barnet, some of the younger stars are set to feature predominately.
Reserve captains Jay Simpson and Håvard Nordtveit are with the travelling party, and will be boosted in the form of Mark Randall and Armand Traoré, who have both been on this trip in each of the last two campaigns. There is also speculation Jack Wilshere and Gavin Hoyte have also been included, although this is yet to be confirmed.
Vito Mannone and Carlos Vela could both feature after being promoted to the first team, in a game which Wenger did not see as particularly important, and stressed the friendly against Stuttgart is a more “serious” encounter for his squad.
“The plan there is to up the quantity of work and to get some good games. (In Hungary and Austria)”
“We have two kinds of practice games then we have a more serious game on Wednesday, the 30th of July, against Stuttgart, then we will prepare for the Emirates Cup, and I believe we will have a little vision of the team at the Emirates Cup against Juventus and Real Madrid”
Record signing Samir Nasri could be unleashed on the Hungarian Champions, and while Szombathelyi admit they are expecting a strong Arsenal side, the boss is set to inter-change the team throughout the fixture.
Kick off at 6.30pm (CET) and 5.30pm UK time. ArsenalTV are exclusively broadcasting the game both online and on the club’s official TV channel. Should a selection of the youth players feature, we will bring you a full report on how they got on immediately after full time.
Article By – J.Sanderson
hope they play well against juve, I have tickets.
Thnx JS!
I hope to see Nasri and Vela play, Barazite has surely traveled with the squad or hasn’t he?!!
Cheers
Just glad to watch sum footie been missin it, i hope wilshere given a chance he deserves it
Any illegal links about?
jack wilshere is there
is lansbury with the squad
J.S do you think the youngsters will acutally play , or isit more of a experience builder
“jack wilshere is there”
how do you know that
i would of thought if he takes jack wilshere hes keeping him in the spotlight and that , i would of though he will play against crawley
im not going to say but he is there
how u no cescy
I hope Nasri plays, plus I wanna see more of wilshire after seeing him play properly for the 1st time against barnet on sat
The teams we play getw orse and worse every year
which good be a good thing… (double figure scoreline…)
is diaby back from injury. And is van persie in the squad.
Also,finally, any news on eduardo.There were reports about him possibly being back for pre-season.Any update!
great blog by the way!
one more thing…where’s barazite.i assume he’s going to salamanca?
seriously why the hell is barazite going to salamanca, it doesnt make any sense!?
Whilst we have the likes of Wilshere, Barazite & Randall coming through. We dont seem to have anyone capable at the back or in goal. I cant believe that Mannone is promoted to the first team. Fabianski looks suspect too. It will be interesting to see who Wenger chose to take to Hungary and then Austria from the youth players. He talked about one or two being really close. My guess is Randall and Barazite
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sanderson wat do u think of freeman is he goin 2 make it at arsenal
hi Jamie, Wilshere is travelling with the team to Austria, take my word for it, i spoke to him recently..
i think gavin hoyte and nordveit are good young prospects at back, as people do say nordveit is the only good one from the reserves, but i think gavin hoyte can go far aswell. hes tall strong in tackles and a good header, just needs to bulk up a bit more and we could see another class defennderv at arsenal this time english!!!!!
Is Henri Lansbury in the squad? As i would have thought he mite be as he was in the supposed “1st team” who played the first half of the Barnet game.
no one has the squad as far as I can see, so no one knows.
Arsene Knows
Kyle Bartley will be a huge player for us on day….
Damn Damn, Damn, I only get home from work at 6:30!!! Gonna miss pretty much the whole game.
You dont need illegal links just sign up to Arsenal Online, its £3.50/month!!
£3.50 is a lot of money to some people, especially with the supermarket 50p deals on at the moment.
Is there any streams on this match?
I watch it on Arsenal TV £13.99 but no need to stream the games and can also see all the arsenal games on setanta sports aswell :D
is there anywhere i can watch it on the net
no one has the squad as far as I can see, so no one knows.
Mark C said this on July 22, 2008 at 10:51 am
Arsene Knows
Double98 said this on July 22, 2008 at 11:07 am
LOL.
nice, exited again, hopefully they give a btter performance than against Barnet (overall as a team i mean, since some individuals were brilliant against Barnet) and we can nick a slightly larger scoreline this time.
Oh, and btw, hope Wilshire is playin cuz he always manages to put on a show.
5:30pm it is then. Can’t wait.
Hey what do you guys make of this rumour that Juve want RVP? I personally think its rubbish and if true they would be wasting their time. Thoughts
I was hoping to see some pictures of Nasri and co. training..
I was told that todays game kicks off at 4.30pm. Does anyone know if they will be showing a repeat later on tonght?
“I was told that todays game kicks off at 4.30pm”
Live coverage starts on Arsenal TV at 4:30 but the game doesnt kick off until 5:30. I duno if they’re repeating it but they will show extended highlights at 9pm tonite (i think).
Davetherave the game starts at 5.30pm, the build up strats at 4.30. And I dont know if it will be repeated later tonight but I expect it will, they repeated the Barnet game.
Does anyone know if there is a schedule advertised on the net for Arsenal TV. No one seems to know. You go on the Arsenal Official website and it’s not there. Maybe it could be advertised on young guns? the cutting edge for Arsenal info.
Todays game kicks off at 5:30 I think. Its 4:30 when Arsenal TV starts broadcasting.
So confused about the squad situation, everyone seems to know a few players going, but no-one knows the full squad. Why hasn’t it been announced?
Cheers Matty
I heard that is was 5.30, I hope it is cos that would mean that i just about make kick off. PLus i only jus got ATVO
Wilshere is at the camp, he’s on the right here;
http://www.arsenal.com/images/t/training22072008_1.jpg
Do you think Fab will play behind a main striker like he did successfully for his country or will wenger play a 4-4-2 formation at the start of the season. What do you all think is Arsenals best formation?
van persie has got grey hair just seen the pics on http://www.arsenal.com, looks like ramsey and wilshere on the first pic but u cant see thier face but u can see the back of them. Carlos vela and samir nasri are on it
4-5-1 Away Games 4-4-2 Home Games
arsenal best formation is 4-1-3-2, and this is how it should line up.
ALMUNIA
SAGNA TOURE GALLAS CLICHY
——-DIABY————
EBOUE–FABREGAS–NASRI
————VAN PERISE
–GREEDYBAYOR———
PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THATS JUST THE WAY THE Starting line up is going to be, if those propsed signings are not first teamers.
Arsenals Best formation with RVP is 4-4-2, without RVP you could make a case for 4-5-1. I doubt fab will be play there especially when we have plays like rvp, Nasri, Rosicky who already play that position. But saying that I could imagine just ahead of a central midfield pairing of Diaby and Denilson
Wilshere is in Austria he is in the pictures in Arsenal.com although no show of Adebayour on there, but I hear he is at the camp. Good to see Nasri and Vela getting stuck in.
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=494222&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Arsenal+in+Austria+-+exclusive+pictures+from+training+camp
here guys photos of players in Austria
coquelin is also there
“coquelin is also there”
Good, id like to see more of him, quick, strong and good in a tackle. Flaminis replacement?
:D i half kid you…
Yup Wilshere is also there as is Ramsey
i am getting a funny feelin the fact that wilshere is there is hes levels ahead of his age group while coquelin has not proved himself especially not in a week or 2 , and i believe this will slow down the developtment of our english midfielders .I feel a bit of favouritism is going on .
Maybe Wilshere is one of the 1 or 2 players from the reserves Wenger mentioned would be in the 1st team plans this year.
Why are we giving wilshire all these games to shine when he has not signed a professional contract. I have been told that he can not sign untill xmas due to his age. Are we leaving our selves open to other clubs trying to tap him up. I think we should keep him under wraps until he signs. I might be paronoid but if I was chelsea of manu I would be tapping him up with a large sum of cash. What do you think?
He is Arsenal through and through. I think he has been at the club since he was 13. Not sure if I am correct on the age he started.
I hope you’re right!
I don’t think that the fact that coquelin is there is because of favouritism, I think wenger knows about his abilities and that is why he is there.
And I also think that lansbury and randall are there.
This could happen. We got Cesc that way I think.
coquelin is one of the best youngster we have got, hes much better than our english midfielders defensivly, only the best will make it. lets wait and see what happens today then we” have a better understanding. then we rate.
davetherave said this on July 22, 2008 at 2:58 pm
He is an avid Arsenal support who was taught in the Arsenal academy and has been mentioned in regards to future first team plans by Arsene Wenger after being fast tracked through our youth system. You really think he’s gonna throw that all away to rot with the 600 other youngsters Chelsea buy but our too scared to play?
Thats just a selective picture posted on the arsenal website, it doesnt mean all the players r not present. Also you statement also shows how mentally weak certain english players with moaning about competitions, life isnt meant to easy.
I watched on Ars TV Online, an interview with former arsenal player about his days @ hale end in the 80s, he said in order for him to be considered for the 1st team, he had to made sure that his niche skills was maintained in addition to adding strenghs of other youth players to his game thus he will be ahead of everyone. Thats how make it not by crying & being inferior skill wise
favouritism? he’s been at the club a week, I don’t think le boss and coquelin did too much bonding in that time for a conspiracy about our english kids to come about. maybe he has comprimising pictures of pat rice though.
Thr main ingrediant these young players need to be able to make it in the first team is “can they take a kick”. Because we all know for sure that the opposition we kick us as they cannot beat us on a technical level. I think wenger will be thinking the same when he looks at players like wilshire. We don’t want him to go all reyers/helb on us when he gets kicked.It’s sad but even the commentators get excited when we get kicked, they accept it as part of the game-especially Andy Grey the biggest tosser on TV.
I cant believe that Mannone is promoted to the first team. Fabianski looks suspect too. It will be interesting to see who Wenger chose to take to Hungary and then Austria from the youth players. He talked about one or two being really close. My guess is Randall and Barazite
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if arsene is going to take a gambling, I’d prefer him giving szczesny a chance. this lad is a super talented keeper.
Samuel, I hope you’re right. I just think that he has the potential to become world class as I am sure you do. These kids can be influenced. I just wonder if it’s worth the risk to play him in the carling cup before he signs his contract. Was Fab a barcelona supporter when we brought him!
davetherave said this on July 22, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I unfortunatly agree on this. It’s such a shame that this has become the yardstick of professional football. Even with the huge discussions on the redevelopment of youth football in this country have we seen people like Brooking come out and say that the emphasis on strength and roughness should be taking down a few notches, just that technique should also be a part of development.
Jeez! Either I’m slow or a few of you guys are private eyes when you’re not posting on Arsenal blogs. That’s Wilshere and Ramsey in the first picture on the Arsenal site, right?
yup sure is Big Al.
There is a difference between Fabregas and Wilshere, a pretty big one:
Fabregas would never have been guaranteed a real opportunity at the first team at Barcalona. A lot has been said about the group that bought Messi, Fabregas, Pique and Dos Santos to the game but in reality, three of them left because Barcalona wouldn’t give them the opportunity they deserved. And it was a team Cesc left because he was ‘sick of winning 10-0 every time’ so it was obvious they had the talent, it’s just that everyone given a number at Barca is scrutinised so much that introducing almost every player can be a deadly idea. Messi and Bojan made it but the likes of Pique had to leave for obvious reasons: flair players can have a bad day and it’s ok but if Pique was to start at 18 instead of an injured first teamer and have Villa or Guiza or Van Nistelrooy skin him, that would be the end of his Barca career.
At Arsenal, we have a very significant stepping stone that Barca don’t have: The Carling Cup. Players can play professional games against the best in the country to little significance. If they have a bad game, it’s ok, they are young and still developing. If they have a great game, they can maybe sit on the bench in bigger games or get a high profile loan. It’s a great barometer to judge whether players are ready for first team football, gonna be good enough to eventually have first team football or just not good enough without the pressure they would have in league or European games. This, ultimately, is where Wilshere can bridge the gap that Fabregas wasn’t allowed.
Just seen the squad Coquelin, Ramsey, Nasri, Lansbury, Randall, Wilshere, Barazite and Nordveit are all in the squad. ( didnt say who was in the starting 11 though).
I think that AW shud buy Albiol, he’s young and totally outclasses Senderos! we still need a CDM also, i think that Zapata would be a welcomed addition to our squad and we could either push him up in front of the defence or Toure? Has any ov u herd that Eduardo is still along way from fitness, i read it 2day n if the news is tru then we need another striker. AW admitted that he will bring in 1 player at least, but its not enough!!! we need more depth because we are alredy 2 players short before the season starts cuz ov the injuries to Eduardo n Rosicky. i dnt think we will get Barry, Veluso or Arshavin. Does any1 think that AW shud giv Jay Simpson a chance? I know it was only Barnsley but i stil fort he was impressive, and he did wat Bendtner cudnt…SCORE! i think he could be a more powerful Walcott? maybe Theo’s abit quicker but Simmoz definatly got the power….GUNNA4LIFE…oh n AW please dont bring in dat Bischoff guy n expect that to be enuf! we need more depth than one player who has hardly played a 1st team game can offer.
BigAl: http://www.rockynewsnow.info/ will keep you in touch with every (kinda) respectable arsenal site as soon they are posted on the internet.
Wilshere, Coquelin, Lansbury, Randall, Mannone all there.
Albiol sucks balls.
Everyone is there except Cesc
What about vela?
JON V, where is the squad announcement?
Vela is there.
gunner4life: dunno but on atvo they just showed a load of them getting off the team bus.
Arsenal TV just showed the squad…everyone except Cesc (i think)
Squad was announced on Arsenal TV.
Before they showed who got off the bus they showed the whole squad
Vela is in the team aswell they had footage of him coming off the team coach.
Mind you…they showed Vela in the squad before the Barnet game yet he didnt play
cheers
My internet connection is going crazy, switching from ridiculously slow to normal, it’s like screwed and chopped arsenal.
any live stream?
“My internet connection is going crazy, switching from ridiculously slow to normal, it’s like screwed and chopped arsenal.”
Its ok, ive got the same problem so its not just u. It was a bit dodgey against Barnet aswell, not this bad thou! Hope it calms down be4 the kick-off.
http://www.justin.tv/mstv3
Thats why u wana get Setanta sports Im having no problems wiv connection :P
it still worries the shit out of me that wenger is stickin by senderos!!!
Yeh has anyone got any links to the game??
it still worries the shit out of me that wenger is stickin by senderos!!!
Yeh has anyone got any links to the game??
nick said this on July 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm
wait to see who the (possibly) 2 signings are first.
WILSHERE STARTING.
As far I could get down:
Almunia
Sagna Hoyte Hoyte Clichy
Wilshere Ramsey – –
Walcott Bendtner
vela i think is one, dunno the 11th man.
What is the starting XI
true, if we sign an established c/b then that should be ok, but i wud rather senderos just werent at our club!
Well, I think Song is close to usurping 3rd choice so I’m not that worried myself.
They are genuinely asking about Wilshere breaking through the team. :D:D:D:D
confirmed team alumia, sagna. hoyte, g.hoyte, clcihy, wilshere, ramsey, denilson, walcott, vela, bendtner subs: lansbury, manoone, traore, simpson,