Just 6 minutes after making his playing return to Arsenal following a character building loan spell with Derby County, exciting Dutch forward Nacer Barazite cracked home his third goal in as many years against Barnet at Underhill.
The imposing winger was one of the shining lights of a stuttering start to Arsenal’s pre-season fixtures. Yet the future of one of the most promising wide men in Europe is still very much up the air. The likes of Luke Ayling, Francis Coquelin, Sanchez Watt, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and Emmanuel Frimpong also impressed yesterday, but another year in the Reserves is needed for their development.
But the same cannot be said for Barazite. The Dutch Under 19 international is at the stage of his career where the next move will be ‘make or break’. Another loan could be on the cards, but in another 12 months the situation would be identical. So how about a promotion to the first-team? well many have been calling for that for the past two years.
After his spell at Derby County brought a mixture of good and poor performances, it’s still unclear whether Nacer has the consistency in his game to make a real impression on something like the Carling Cup. Yet yesterday he proved he can be a valuable impact player, meaning a role similar to that which Theo Walcott had could be useful.
But with the likes of Andrey Arshavin, Samir Nasri, Tomas Rosicky, Armand Traore, Emmanuel Eboue and the aforementioned Walcott all vying for the two wing positions, and with the forward line seeming to be just as competitive, there is nowhere Barazite could really fit in.
His exquisite finish yesterday was just a flash of the genius Nacer possesses, but what would you do to further his development?
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i think another loan spell would be beneficial, only to a top division club, like you said, there just isnt enough room in Arsenal yet
The problem is where does he play? I think we shud keep him and use him as an impact player. We could with someone like him he cou;ld be our new pires
we should keep him
A regular spot in one of the promoted teams would be perfect or even a team like West Brom. Its a year too soon i fear. Will Armand stay or be loaned out
Stick him up front, give him a similar role to Vela last year, and promote Vela to a Bendtner role.
I think we should see how he does in pre-season if he does well he should be given a chance in carling cup games etc. If he doesnt overly impress i think another loan would be good.
I agree to get that run of consistency and to be fair to the lad he should be loaned to a premiership side. It would give wenger a better chance to asses his full potential against the sides he will be expected to play week in week out.
Division one is a crazy place its harder in some ways can be cahos for 90 mins.
I say use him as an impact player.
I can understand why Wenger says he might not bring in new players and will probably promote from within.
I think Wenger probably wants players like Jay Simpson and Nacer Barazite to start playing for Arsenal.
We can talk about signing players all the time. Well, I agree if we sign the correct players of course, but as for attacking options, we have to somehow promote from within and give some of the lads chances.
In short, sign to strengthen the necessary positions. Promote the ones who deserve. And Nacer Barazite deserves at least a chance. (:
My worry is that thier will never be room for him!
Considering most of the players he’s competing with are slightly older than him you would expect them to be around for quite awhile.
Where most clubs have experienced players in thier squads and maybe one or two youngsters in reserve we seem to have too many, vying for the same spot.
The fact that he is versatile can only be of benefit at this time in his career. Having the ability to play on both wings and behind the strikers, he would be very useful to have on the bench. But I think it would probably be better for him to go out on loan to a premiership side. Perhaps Wigan, as I’m sure Martinez will have seen him in the championship and likes to play the right way or maybe to Bruce at Sunderland.
I hope that he has a really impressive preseason and really make AW notice him.
Barazite will play better with better players. I saw him with derby but cause of jewell negative tactics he didnt play the best. Barazite early on his loan looked good he hardly gave the ball away could be like alexander hleb.
Give him another loan spell… next season, we will kick out eboue and maybe if those fucking madrid and barca is to make a call for fabregas or arshavin to join them, then barazite would have a chance to impress.
Barazite is not alone is this situation. He is highly rated as many other youngsters. He is waiting for his chance like the rest of them. He is just no alone, many others are in the same situation. Players like wilshere, lansbury, ramsey, vela, merida.. All these players have the calibre to make it to the first team, all they need is just a chance. The question is when would they get their chance.
Can they afford to wait for their chance? Not many are willing to wait. People like david bentley is a fucker that does not want to wait for his chance and look at what happened to him.
We must trust wenger and wenger know what must be done. Therefore, the ultimate solution is not always to buy new players. We must give chances to youngsters. However these youngsters must be ready, otherwise we would have no choice buy to buy players.
Therefore, in the adebayor vold, i believe we need no other strikers. We have plenty of striking options. Arshavin can play as a striker, we have eduaro coming back, diaby can step in as well and walcott is a striker actually.
However in the DM position, the only player which i think is capable of being a good DM is francis coquelin. But he is still young and would only be ready earliest by the 2010/2011 season. Therefore do we want to stick with Song, Denilson and Diaby as our DM options? I would say it is best to buy another DM.
I seriously hope wenger knows what he is doing. He must know how to integrate the youngsters into the first team, and who to buy and who not to buy.
I am looking forward to next season already.
What is his natural position? why doesn’t Wenger promote him to senior squad and rival Walcott for the right hand side of midfield, that should be an healthy competition?
He dribbles like hleb and has vision. And we know he can score goals. He could be a revelation next season. Lets give the kid a chance
Hopefully he will stay with the first team and be used in carling cup and get some time from the bench in prem games then go out on loan to a prem club in january if hes not getting enough time on the pitch at arsenal.
Needs a premiership loan. He is better than Traore, we’ve all known it for eternity, but people are rating Traore because he got a spell at a decent premiership side. Barazite is one of the few players that could really be an Arsenal player one day, but playing in the reserves or for a struggling championship side won’t cut it for him now.
I agree, another season loaned out. It would be a shame for him to be next season’s Vela and spend a whole season on the bench and only make an occassional appearance in the Carling Cup.
He deserves to play as a regular somewhere.
Does Anyone Else Think That He Is Alot Like Pires? In The Style Of Which He Plays I Mean.
I think we should keep him, play him in the Carling Cup and use him in the league as a sub, then loan him in january to a Premier league team…
I think we should loan him to wigan ,, he will groom great under martinez who i have heard is a similar type of coach as wenger ,, and recently they have lost there winger antonio valencia to man ytd ,, if he gets some starts there he can become a consistent performer ,, i also watched barnet match in which i found coquelin a bit inaccurate in his passes where as sunu , jay emmanuel thomas and barazite impresses me .
Personally, I think we should be taking advantage of Pompy’s horredneus situation and loan them two or three kids. They only have 14 (!) first team squad players after Crouch leaves, if Barazite or Lansbury or whoever need first team Premiership experience, that seems the place where they are likely to accept exciting young footballers and play them at the highest level at the moment. We have a good relationship with the club, given Traore and some sales (Campbell, Lauren) and must have assessed their training from Traore’s relitively successful time there.
I want to see and assess this kid playing regular Premiership football and while Arshavin is in his way, I’d like to see that happen elsewhere for next season to see if he’s good enough for us or to drum up the price. Good luck to the lad though, I think he has it in him to be star under Arsene.
if he goes on loan, it has to be with a good creative passing team.
we are talking about Marouane Chamakh and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, whether a Dutch is better or a Moroccan. Why not have both in Nacer Barazite, who is a Dutch Moroccan. It would be better to send the 20 million on a defensive midfielder eg Real Madrids Mahamadou Diarra. That is the only department we hard weak in.
Barazite i think is new Ibrahimovic it is coming strongest in every year i think that year he come with number 25 in ex number Manu …barzite is brilliant…really yesterday he show that goal how henry scores with legs hmm
I say get rid of walcott. Hes standing in the way of more promising players like barazite, wilshere, vela and merida. Its a joke that hes had so much playing time considering his relative ability
Well if we play 4-2-3-1 next season as has been mooted, Barazite can play left side of the 3. And fight for a place there with Vela and Rosicky, as well as playing in the carling Cup! Then loan him if he aint getting much game time.
Guys did u see barazite little flick just before he scored i fought that was world class.
What are you all talking about? Do you want him to rot at wigan and sunderland. These teams have negative tactics, which may stop his development!
Loan him to Holland! Clubs like groningen or herenveen would suit him perfectly!
Keep him. We lack quality, numbers and competition on the right hand side of midfield. Walcott’s showing on the right has been disappointing. Even with all that pace he has, he still struggles to get around defenders. He crossing is aldo horrible. Hopefully next season we’ll see what he can do up front.
Barazite will surely be used in the Carling Cup next season. If we go out early then he can be loaned out in the 2nd half of the season.
Keep him and play him every time Wenger’d play Diaby on the wings.
Jaysis, if thats a pic of Nacer he’s bulked up a bit from last season.. Spot on though, whatever he does next will be ‘make or break’..
progman07
I think we have a winner!!!
Chance, chance and chance missing for these young players but why should Arsene retain some of the players in the first team. I mean Eboue will never be the Eboue we knew in 2006/7; he has deteriorated ever since but still getting chances to show that he’s crap and AW is not prepared to sell him.
Djourou and Senderos can’t make it as well at CB, not good technically and physical weak even though big.
AW could convert to RW position as he has the pace and power to succeed there instead of keeping Eboue.
Another player who should pave way is Diaby. Diaby leaving will give chances to JET and Coquelin.
Hopefully he will get a chance to impress whether at a club that plays good football in the Championship or Premier League or he sticks around and features in the Carling Cup squad.
Either way, I hope his chances aren’t given to Traore, who did not impress with Pompey…
Correction=Aw could convert to RW should read AW could convert Simpson to RW position.
He have only play one game this season and it was against Barnet…let see what he can do against real class players. But it did look very promising indeed. I feel many reserves and U18 can make it but its very hard to tell. walcott have got real competition from our youth this season. He hasn’t show world class vision game after game I think. But wilshere, lansbury, barazite and a few more show how good they really are. Eboue and walcott have to bring it. I love this! Watch out for Arsenal this season!
he looks to as if he’s bulked-up a bit from the last time I see him play, so perhaps it’s now time to have a proper look @ him or @ least get him loaned-uut to Prem club this time so we can tell if he has the bit between his teeth or not?
perhaps loan him to a spanish club who play attacking football rather than the championship where creative midfielders are frowned upon.
I would give him Traore´s place in the side and loan Traore out to another club ( NOT BIRMINGHAM CU”TS ). Barazite will become a great player.
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Hes got a great shot on him and good dribbling, i think we should let him play in the Carling Cup and when we go out then let him go on loan.
Keep him and get rid of Traore. Armand’s crossing is good and he is pacy and a handful for fullbacks, but your wingers should offer at least some goalscoring threat and Traore doesnt
I for one hope that he gets his chances here at arsenal. He’s strong physically and technically, he is good enough to make a step up.
But i really think that wenger will give traore more chances than him which is just wrong. Traore didnt have a successful time at pompey. He didnt even make the bench most of the time during his time at pompey on loan. And dont forget diaby to be in the running for that spot too. For some reason wenger likes to play him there. Diaby on the left wing is worse!
Arsenal tend to struggle when they face a compact and well organized defense. I think Arsenal need a player who can frequently take on defenders on a one to one basis,beat them, and create clear cut chances. I think Barazite could be that kind of player if he adjusts the timing and space he has when he tries to beat defenders. Barazite is technically very good, and once he learns to break for out of his “comfort zone” and risk a bit more
when taking on players… Yes, imagine Barazite taking some lessons from Messi. That could do the trick. Wenger could drop buying a new forward then, but I would like him to get a top central defender who can rule the air with a top positional sense.
Gallas is very good at his best, but he is no king in the air, and this coming season will probably be his last for Arsenal when his contract expires next year.
Arsenal miss a top defensive midfielder. Coquelin might become one, but if Wenger does not get a DM he wants, perhaps Arsenal should play with a sweeper in a 4-1-3-2 formation? I wonder if any of Arsenal`s young talents could step up in the role as a sweeper?
I ask all Young Guns readers to suggest who could step up as a sweeper? Wenger might use Song as a sweeper, but I would like to see alternative suggestions too.
I wonder how long Fabregas will stay at Arsenal? If Arsenal do not win anything this coming season, I am afraid he will go, but he is not irreplacable, and I think the creative midfielder Hernanes of Sao Paolo could be the perfect replacement. But getting him will be very difficult as many other top clubs will want him too. He is valued about 15 million pounds, and from what I have seen of him, he will probably be worth it. Just like Arshavin who I deem to be Arsenal`s best player. Wenger should build Arsenal round Arshavin.
Let`s hope Wenger will not loan out Barazite to another club. Arsenal`s first team needs him. I deem Barazite potential to be bigger than the talents of Nasri or Walcott.
Have a great, and hopefully swine flu free summer.
“Djourou and Senderos can’t make it as well at CB, not good technically and physical weak even though big.
AW could convert to RW position as he has the pace and power to succeed there instead of keeping Eboue.”
Djourou isnt good technically or strong enough??? Wtf have you been watching. Senderos is also strong enough and a good defender, but he just loses concentration at times which is often costly.
And simpson doesnt have the skill level of eboue. I like him cos hes a good finisher and may be a good prospect long-term but hes technically average and physically pretty much equal (in terms of pace and strength) to eboue as it is. Eboue also has great stamina which simpson couldnt hope to match currently.
Isn’t Djourou 6’3” or something? Should be tall and strong enough IMO.. I agree with you about simpson, can only hope to be a reserve striker unless he does something unbelieveable in preseason.. And to reiterate some of my previous views, walcott isn’t a footballer and needs to get with the programme quick smart, AW should start playing him up front NOW if he’s going to make any use of him. If he had the intelligence of Eduardo and Vela he could be terrifying for a defence.. I really really dislike Eboue, that lad needs a slap and told to harden the f**k up and push Sagna for RB, because with application he can run him close.. Anyway back to Nacer, just saw the goal, very well taken.. Probably took the keeper by suprise..
all i can say is hes better then walcott!
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I think eboue has made some changes to his mentality and the way he played towards the end of the season is a better reflection of his quality. Imo hes excellent backup for either fulback position or either wide mid position.
Thoroughly agree about walcott. He’s been given SO many chances and his performances havent been good often enough to justify it. I think his signing and the fact hes had so much playing time is a real cockup by wenger. Particularly as we have Such promising youngsters coming through. It’s like arsenal was just set up to help gain theo experience. We should have been rewarding the players who actually deserved a chance. Now guys like vela and wilshere (and barazite) will have to wait even longer..
Saying that, these days I think hes a brilliant sub to have tactically.
Sell Walcott, put Nacer Barazite in the 1st team.
If he’s good enough, he’s old enough!
It seems all these sheep buying into the Theo bashin have completely forgot how he was playing early last season… right up till he got effin injured…
twats make me sick, writing off players as if there is some magic conveyor belt…
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Spike – hes had good moments sure, but he got put into the first team way before he was ready. And after that wenger persisted with playing him until he did a couple of really nice things and now he finally plays to a level where he isnt a liability.
Why did he get this special treatment though? wilshere and vela have shown more promise when they’ve played and they dont get their chance. Vela scored on his first start I believe and his goals to games ratio when hes started must be incredible. Yet wenger seems to have gambled the entire club on walcott
I remember how he played earlier in the season. He reminds me of rooney. Doesnt do much for aaages then has a great game, which sets him off on a little run of good form. It happened after he came back from his injury as well. I really thought he’d turned that corner. He’s a textbook confidence player and is as I said a brilliant attacking sub to have, but i think it’s disgusting the number of chances he has had to improve relative to the others who have shown similar, if not more promise but not been given much chance
Its more an attack on wenger than walcott.
Giving him that new contract was big a mistake as well imo. Its rewarding him before hes actually done anything
Agree with both davi’s comments and really disagree with patricks
i think this guys is really quality and if there is any player who breaks in to the our squad that we already dont know of is him, he plays exactly like pires and also like kaka on the wings, attacking mid 2nd striker his amazing give him a chance in the carling cup instead of people like mark randall
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This blog is about youngsters therefore one should have more of an open mind regarding youngsters’ developments. Walcott started playing football properly at 12 therefore he is behind on the development scale, missing much of what coaches call the ‘golden age of learning’. He has bundles of raw talent; maybe Wenger persisted with him longer but he is mature and his pace always caused problems.
Confidence has changed him however; he still thinks about using his pace more but he’s acknowledge his team play and decision making can improve and while he’s still twenty has got time. Capello also rates him; his close control and dribbling are fantastic.
If you look at RVP who was very individualistic but has become an almost complete player now since he came to the club. It’s his decision making and understanding that has really improved and once Walcott fuses mental aspect together he will be a really fantastic player. I see him on the wing, especially as a wide forward. He can still be a good striker too but lacks maybe the hold up play.
Barazite is definitely not ready for the first team yet. He must go on loan to a technically and tactically strong team, maybe in Spain. I see him as a support striker but also a clever creative winger.
Djourou can make the step up; getting better positionally, brings the ball out and is strong in the air. Plus he’s mobile, something which many fail to pick up on as Arsenal need to play a high line therefore you need defenders who are quick on the move and technically good.
Brain – I agree with you largely regarding his qualities. Theo also finishes chances at times in a way which makes u think he might end up being a very good finisher (although this hasnt happened enough either)
Walcott has had too much 1st team action till now though. If that time had been given to certain other young players I suspect you would see similar or greater improvements.
His close control is good btw, but hardly of the level of some of our other players. He seems to be a bit over-enthusiastic at times and ends up giving the ball away easily when trying to dribble. Capello uses him because he offers something different to what is already there i think. And lets face it, England are not as blessed with attacking talent as they like to believe.
The difference with RVP, as well as being a bit older when he started playing for us, is that he scored fantastic goals *regularly and while I agree he has changed and improved his game over time to become more of a team player, he always showed he was at a level technically and tactically where he was deserving of a first team chance. Walcott has always been far less consistent.
Imo wilshere would have made at least as much of the opportunities had he played instead of walcott’s in his appearances this year, I seriously dont. He seems much more switched on, plus he has a wider array of talents. Gibbs as well has more technical talent than walcott and an attitude where you know he will improve quickly.
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Brain, i completely agree with you on Barasites and I hope AW finds him a quality, compact team in Spain. If we have enough time on our hand on the outside right, I would have prefered him as understudy to TW than to loaning him out but time is of essense in premiership now plus the need to win a silverware at all cost now on the team. No other viable option.
On TW, i guess it is about individual opinion. Historically, this is AW’s mark all over the guy in terms of his faith and persistent use even when they seems not to be cutting it before us all. He has done it with Anelka, RVP, Emanuelle Adebyegone and most recently with Song/Eboue. If NA and EA didn’t blow it at Arsenal the benefit of AW’s persistent would have been massive aside the monetary returns.
TW is hugely talented but will improve year after year. The special time given will be worthy in no time.
There some great ideas her from what I read. But Wenger knows there is a huge psycological aspect to playing in the first team. Clearly from so many respondents just Big B’s appearance in a pre season game, imagine how much stick he could get if he puts a foot wrong in a league game? He’s going to be a great player( so is Walcott) but physically you don’t enter your full development until age twenty three. We have twenty plus guys who are still on the way. You can’t keep begging everyone for patience but it’s a fact that time will be the best cure for all our supposed troubles. I still think a top class mid fielder(cm) would help all three of our current role players. Cesc is awesome but even he can learn from someone like that.
I don’t care if we win the league this year I would just like to see a team that is starting to scare the life out of the rest of our rivals. All hail to the Russian Pocket
Rocket!
Walcott is a striker, his runs will be invaluable in striker position. I agree Barazite, Vela must play more and Wenger is true to his word and by firing Adebayor he garanteed that one the youngsters would get promoted. Exciting, I just hope everybody is fired up that’s all we need really
i’ve watch him in carling cup before iguess. he’s playing in right midfield in that match.. not sure now…
all i can say is hes better then walcott!
agree!
It’s no use Wenger saying the club strategy is to bring on youngsters rather than buy big and then when real talent emerges from the kids, not to give them a fair chance.
I was hoping that Vela would have fetured more by now. I think he could be our very own Ronaldo given the chance.
Arsenal 2009/2010 team:
Keepers: Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone
full backs: Sagna, Eboue, Clichy, Gibbs,
Centre backs: Toure, Gallas, Vermaelen, Djourou, Silvestre
Central Midfielders: Fabregas, Denilson, Diaby, Song, Ramsey, Toulalan?!!
Wide midfielders: Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, Traore, Wilshere, Barazite
Strikers: RVP, Dudu, Walcott, Vela, Bendtner
I think this is how our first team will look like!
Walcott is a striker, he cant cross well, he is too direct and uncomposed to function on the rightside of midfield. We nee a creative technical player who can keep the ball close to his feet and look for the final ball to walcott who can run into the spaces behind the defence.
There is no need for a new striker! Just a class midfielder and I would personally prefer a player like Bassong who has proven to be dominant in the air and good at defending set plays.
Barazite is real class. He should be loaned out if he will not get many opportunities. But if Walcott moves up front and we have to take injuries into account I think he can get some chances to play on the right or left side of midfield in certain games.
Cheers,
Barazite become the best arsenal player ever.
Clockendjim; Vela our own Ronaldo? I assume you’re talking about the the ‘original’ Ronaldo and not that preening CR7 twat (who’ll be around tallaght today, and could quite possibly get mugged! :-))
Ah Mousin, Toulalan would be an astute signing, good spot!
I’m a Derby fan who follows Arsenal as my second team and I’m afraid there’s no way Barazite is ready for Arsenal yet. Nearly all his best performances for Derby were as a sub. He struggled to impose himself in most of the games he started. Don’t get me wrong he CLEARLY has a lot of technical quality but that doesn’t matter if you can’t apply it. For me his biggest problem is a lack of pace. I know Bobby P wasn’t exactly quick either but he seemed to have that burst of acceleration that Naz just hasn’t. I know I speak for most Derby fans when I say we wish him all the best though as he seems to be a level-headed young pro.
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People exaggerate Barazite’s ‘lack of pace’. Ok, he’s not the quickest, but he’s definetely not slow either. I think the main reason people think that is because Nacer’s acceleration isn’t great and needs some work (although he showed some good bursts of speed Saturday, eg the goal he scored). However, over a longer distance he is quick. The best example is the solo goal he scored for Derby against Blackpool, where he left his opponents trailing once he hit full speed.
I agree with an ealier post. Keep him for the first half. Use him in the carling Cup and as an impact sub in the premier league. If he impresses and his appearances become more frequent, keep him for the whole season. If he impresses, but there don’t seem to be too many opportunities to play loan him to a premier league side. I think he would benefit more from playing with a premiership squad than a spanish one, because he will accommodate himself to the style of the league. I’m sure one of the promoted teams or portsmouth or hull would love to have him (although phil brown might cause him to hate football forever…)
So, give him a chance to prove himself and play with his mates, AW… then go from there
I tend to fear that he may be one who gets lost in the shuffle and we will regret it later. He is an immense prospect and I’d like to see him get a runout in the Carling Cup this season though another year on loan couldn’t hurt. But Jamie is right… next year he’d still be looking at the same situation. It’s a tough spot for him.
Where Now For Arsenal’s Brilliant Barazite? Umm… the left wing to cover Samir Nasri being crocked.
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