Arsenal have beaten Chelsea to the signing of Dutch Under 17 international Kyle Ebecilio, according to RTV Rijnmond. The 16-year-old midfielder will join from Feyenoord on July 1st.
Ebecilio, a strong and powerful attacking midfielder, has been strongly linked with a move to Chelsea in recent weeks, but a reported last minute move from the Gunners has seen them seal the deal, much to Feyenoord’s dismay. Kyle is the cousin of Blues defender Jeffrey Bruma.
More to follow.
Why “to Feyenoord’s dismay”? Were Chelsea offering more money?
They are angry that Arsenal have signed him. It’s to do with the contract age laws in Holland. AZ were furious when we signed Ozyakup too.
But wouldn’t it be the same thing if Chelsea had signed him?
they are angry about losing a talented youngster not about which club signed him
Isnt it obvious ???????
Always nice to hear about new talent joing the team
Wht we need is experienced English players, not these 12 year-old fancy-dan foreigners, blah blah blah, we need to buy some cloggers, not cloggees…
Bibble bibble
Sorry abot that – just though I’d get the aboe out of the ay before someone said it and was being serious….!
Mate, these players cost peanuts. And they go into the youth system. There is no real loss in gaining future stars like this at all. And these “fancy-dan foreigners” actually represent a large part of our great clubs success over the past few decades.
Was Thierry a “fancy-dan”?
RVP?
Cesc?
Bergkamp?
Please…..
Santiago I don’t thing you read his comment thoroughly…He’s clearly making fun of people who would say that. Just read his name…
Last summer we seemed to be interested in Feyenoord’s Luc Castaignos. Is Arsenal still interested?
but why are feyenoord upset that the player is coming here and not going to chelsea? why do they have a preference that he goes to chelsea?
I think they are upset at losing him
i am loving the amount of news on your site right now Jay, you are keeping me happy with the lack of action else where, top man! keep it up dude.
totally agree
Agreed! Excellent work J. Excellent site!
yh lol why are they angry?
They’re upset because they’re losing a talent, not because it’s Arsenal over Chelsea. It was presumed Chelsea for the last couple of weeks but Arsenal made an offer around the same time as Chelsea formally approached him, and he’s apparently opted to join you and not us.
Only one source – a local website – has confirmed it and everyone had thought it was Chelsea so it’s not 100% certain, but it appears as if you’ve got him.
How good is he?
I just hope Arsenal get players ready to play in the first team .Yeah I know he will be ready for the WC four years from now. What Arsenal need are players ready to slot into the senior team when the season opens. We have too many of the kids woth wc potentaial.
Idoit! Just because the first team needs players does not mean we cannot buy youth! We got to build for the future even if we buy for the present you know. One thing does not exclude the other. In every seaosn clubs buy first team players and young kids they hope one day become first team players.
the dutch media seems very surprised that he didn’t join Bruma at Chelsea. The way they are talking is that it was a done deal until arsenal hijacked it at the 11th hour. Interesting stuff.
Castaignos declared last year that he will stay with Feyenoord, he made his debut last season coming on for some minutes in Eredivisie games. Can’t see him going anywhere.
arsenal hijacking chelsea’s done deal isnt that almost impossible for arsenal to do
since we can beat them on the compensation or transfer fess
What Position does he play? Another CM?
not sure how much we need attacking midfielders of this age…
aren’t we a bit oversubscribed with them right now?
the club should be looking to have a constant stream of young players coming through in all areas of the pitch, not just one.
Interesting to see us play tough in the market. In a way this is similar to Galindo being snatched from under Everton’s wings.
Of course we’ve played tough before – I remember the stories of Dein’s car being pelted as he went to Sevilla (?) to sign Reyes.
“Chelsea have raided Feyenoord for young prospect Kyle Ebecilio.
Two years after capturing Jeffrey Bruma from the Dutch giants, Chelsea have swooped for Ebecilio, says RTV Rijnmond.
The 16 year-old midfielder is regarded as the pearl of Feyenoord’s youth system and will move to Chelsea this summer.”
this is from tribal football – mind you they managed to get today’s date wrong so I going with J’s version!
Just to explain. RTV Rijnmond first announced that he had gone to Chelsea. They have since rectified the article and declared that he has signed for us.
Of course they don’t like us stealing their best talents. We don’t like it when Barcelona comes knockign either!
This is translated from the RTV Rijnmond website;
Feyenoord talent gets lost to Arsenal
June 4, 2010
Feyenoord is another talent lost to an English club. The only 16-year-old Kyle Ebecilio has signed a contract at Arsenal, the club of former Feyenoord player Robin van Persie. Previously we reported that the B-junior Chelsea would leave.
It is not the first time that a player at a young age Feyenoord lose to an English club. Jeffrey Bruma Chelsea took a few years ago on the Rotterdam. Meanwhile, he also made his debut in the first team of the English champions.
Wengerrrrrr! Buy establishd firt team players 4 main & subs.
your an idiot.
if you hate young arsenal players,then why are you are visiting this site.i’ts YOUNG GUNS NOT SENIOR GUNS
ITS NOT RELATED YOU A$$
Great news,but is this done deal for sure?
i think i would like to buy more defenders please
amen to that.
watching inter defend their way to the european cup this year reminded me that defending well is as much an art as attacking. the club has definitely lost its defensive prowess.
i would love to see us put more focus on bossing games from the back like we used to.
investing in some good young defenders who actually like to defend would be a start.
We should be looking at wingers
It’s easy to defend with 11 men behind the ball.
Watching Inter have 66% possession reminded me why watching Arsenal is actually entertaining
The whole f* world is getting nuts. I really feel for Feyenoord.
football clubs with academies should be treated like universities in a way.
the best academies should be allowed to compete internationally for the best young talent.
the best young talent should be at the best institutions.
if there was a young stephen hawking in my city, i would want him to go to oxford or cambridge so he could get teaching that was suitable to his ability. i would not want him to be forced to go to some 10 year old polytechnic because it was the nearest place.
the likes of barca and arsenal and ajax should be able to take the best young talent because they’ve proven themselves to be the best teachers.
I really hope they get this 18 year old rule in place. This is killing football. We will never see a dutch team or any smaller nation win a champions league final. I love Arsenal but the stealing of youngster is getting a little old. Not just Arsenal (who actually give these kids a chance) but more of teams like chelsea who just ruin every young kid. I would love to get back to a time where people built teams and players wanted to perform in their home country before moving on. We need parady.
How can you call it stealing? if the kid wanted to stay he would. IF he wants to leave he will. For many kids there is a dream to become pro in another country. Will you ruin their dream just becayse you think they should stay in their hoem country? You do not decide what other people do or want. Just because you want them to stay in Holland does not mean they want to stay there. If they wanted to stay they would wait for 1 more year and sign a contract at their beloved club. its as simple as that. Nobody force them to go to Englnd.
WE pay them they accept the fees and then we get the player its not like we were asking the player to come to us and reject Feyenoords
Except everything we do is perfectly legal. Plus the club is getting paid.
It is not stealing. Feyenoord should do more to convince their players to stay if they want to keep them.
You guys are all missing the point. The problem isnt as much Arsenal as it is the numerous big clubs that sign these kids up and simply ruin them. Also the transer of younsters out side of the country simply kills the overall game and the parady and excitement in world football. Ultimately football will get to where big teamsfrom smaller countries will start to all have massive financial issues and even possibly be out of business. Teams like Ajax, Celtic, Rangers, PSV (Now), belgian league, Benfica etc simply cant compete anymore. They use to be able to compete because they could bring through youth players and develope a squad without worrying about their best talents leaving a 16 or 17. There will be no more Johan Cruyffs at Ajax anymore. Trust me, while yes we personally help youngsters and we only sign young players if we truly believe they will succeed but other big clubs run around signing every decent young talent and just hoping 1 turns out good. I also thin they should get rid of the youth international tourneys. If I am a coach of lets say Norwich and i have a talented 16 year old. Do i really want him to go play in a u17 world cup and show his talents just to get snapped up by a big club?
Shane got a point.For example:I live in Serbia,and we have a lot of great talents.One of our most promising players was Tosic from Partizan.Both of them were bought by Man Utd.Now Tosic is 23 and he’s on loan at Koln.He will never get a chance of playing in one of best clubs in the world(and he haves a lot of potential.The same thing happened with Rajkovic.Chelsea bought him at very young age(16-17 I’m not sure)and he’s been on loan for the last few years.Looks like he will never play for Chelsea in his life(and he was a big talent too).Also he is not included in Serbian national team(and he wasn’t for a long time)
shane on you
Why are people complaining that Arsenal are signing youth players and not first teamers? This is an Arsenal Youth site, what do you expect to be published? “Arsenal sign world class GK” ? I’m sure that Wenger is trying to solve issues in the first team, but bare in mind that there are contracts that need to be resolved internally and keeping our best players is more important than getting new ones. And anyway, why would you pass the chance to sign a potentially world class player just because we have enough in our ranks? We might have argubably the most thourough youth system in the world but the truth is, it isn’t that adequate in my opinion. In our first team squad, Bendtner is the only regular who has emerged from our youth ranks, whilst Everton have Rodwell, Anichebe, Gosling, and even Osman who came through theirs. I’m not trying to slate our system here, but why complain when it’s only going to help us in the future?
Cesc, Clichy, Song all came through the youth system.
yes, but no one is going to make money on “a young Hawking” to run an university. Football clubs are not public like most universities are, and you need money to run a football club. I agree with shane that we need the U18 rule ASAP.
@me
Most good unis are not public. Oxford and Cambrigde are actually private or half private, that is why they got different criterias during UCAS. They can choose alot more and can take in people without previos education etc if they want. The same goes for the best Universities in USA. Also take MIT, they earn alot of money if students they have invent stuff. Often if you invent stuff for say army or when at uni they get to claim the royalties. Ex is kalashnikov, the man that invented kalashnikov is not rich as the russian state claimed the invention.
Young people going abroard to attent foregin universities is called a “Brain Drain”. It is hard for poore countries cos they loose all the bright heads and it makes develompent go slower. However if you are smart and the universities in your home country cannot provide you with enough challenge. You go to MIT or Harvar, or maybe Oxfort or CENIT or some other hot shot uni, get a shcolarship and do great.
Its the same in footy world. The brightest taletns want to go to the best places. And trust me, a young steven hawkin at MIT developing say cars that use water instead of petrol, would generate faar far far far more money than Cesc woudl ever do if he went to barcelona.
Has Stanford earned any money from Google :) I don’t think so. Maybe in personal donations but it’s still not the common thing to do. I was saying….in ten years time there will be 10 clubs in a superleague whereas the others will provide basic training to talented kids.
I hope that the under 18 rule does come into effect. We aren’t breaking any rules by signing young players. We are just trying to keep up with other clubs like Barca, Real, United etc. I think if the rule came in, it would provide a more solid platform for younger players. They know where they will develop, and they’l gain more of an appreciation for the club that develops them. Then they might actually stay longer if more young players are around them and develop with them, and progress into the first team at whatever club they are at. Then the club could grow stronger with the young talent, and it could help the league become more competitive with the big 4. This rule should definately come in to place!!!
its not youngsters which are the reason why chelsea have been successful, nor has it been the reason for man u ‘s success nor is it the reason why spurs are doing alright and man city just has a sugar daddy, so how the hell would it make the league more competitive.
If we dont do this then we may never be able to compete with Money of Chelsea, Real Madrid and City
Football should focus on the unfair advantage City and Chelsea have with their owners than how clubs like us legally ask the clubs of these youngsters to sign them and after paying compesation take them
I love that we are signing a bunch of youngsters, but should we be concentrating on the first team right now, getting a few more players there, instead of signing 3 or 4 youngsters? Unless of course, this is doesn’t really concern Wenger’s time much (but i would think otherwise, i read he usually meets with every player he plans to sign multiple times), then I am okay with it.
NOT RELATED HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE THIS
Just curious… anyone know of what descent Ebecilio is?
TIRED OF KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY GROW UP AND LEAVE FOR OTHER CLUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that can happen with first team players aswell
He’s Jeffrey Bruma’s cousin, I think Bruma is mixed raced and Kyle is black, so you could find out his descent by searching up Bruma.
I wish we were never linked in the 1st place because now if he turns out to be any where near the class of Bruma, it’d be like.. damn.. we almost got him.
stealing- get lost
its the player’s right to choose who he plays for. Extreme regulation on player’s lives is just another form of authoritarianism. how is it any different from these academies signing players at 9 from local teams.
I can’t see what a U18 rule would fundamentally change. Id imagine Ebecilio would have signed in a couple years instead, unless Feyenoord became a top10 team in the meantime, which is unlikely.
People talking about not having young Cruijffs anymore when Ajax was one of the only teams to have a youth system back then. Or kids from Serbia or Bulgaria etc going to Chelsea, ManU,… and not making it. Well that is called competition and yeah it’s been getting harder and harder. Perhaps there were 2 brilliant kids in Serbia who didnt make but I have seen hundreds of brilliiant French kids who never made it. Cesc became Cesc because he joined us at 16. Others failed because they joined us at 16. With a u18 rule, Cesc could be playing for Jerez right now, and Barcelona could be begging us for Aliadiere. I see this as a SHIFT, not a CORRECTION.
Besides it wasnt too long ago that Shevchenko and Rebrov threw Dynamo Kiyv into European limelight or Porto won the CL with plenty of Porto-bred players, u18 rule or not.
There is free movement of human capital and resources in the EU that is what society has come down to. To advocate rules that encourage “equality” and nationalism is akin to communism to be honest. Which is fine if that is what you believe in but it just goes against social mainstream so you can’t be surprised if it is not happening.
Anyway that is just my opinion, and I hope you can respect it as much as I respect the others. :)
The stupidity of some people is amazing! Complaining about the club signing young players on a blog that is about Arsenal’s youth team players!
Every club tries to sign the best young players. United did it with beckham back in the day (fuck knows how they got past that 90 minute distance rule?) That is one of the reasons we go for foreign kids is down the number of clubs competing for their signatures in a pretty small area (London and the South).
How do you think barca got messi in the 1st place? They paid off his whole family and filled him full of steriods and alsorts of shit to make him grow! That was a bit random, werent it!
so once again we steal players from other teams by using loopholes in the laws. kind of immoral …
When Barca are doing immoral things in order to sign Cesc we are against it but when we do immoral things as we sign (basically steal since the clubs don’t wanna give lose them) players it is GREAT!
Barca tried to sign Afobe and Aneke, but they both decided to stay here. Other young players have chosen to go elsewhere, rather than stay at Arsenal.
Where is the immorality in that?
You are chatting bubbles.
hiro cecs is under a 5 years contract ,the young we take are not.they have choice to stay or come here.we are not kidnapping them,just giving the choice (and cash of course).
I can really see both sides of the argument. I just think the under 18 rule could make the leagues more competitive if say a whole bunch of youth from a smaller club came through and made it into the first team. And think if that club did really well in their league. Then that would at least add one team to the real competition at the top of that league. Then if this club continues to do well, the younger players will stay because of team strength, Champions League football etc. And if this happened in more than one league, then that would enhance the competition to a further degree. I can’t see the under 18 rule coming into pplay because right now I think it would be going against EU law, so unless the law is changed, I don’t think the rule will be able to come into effect.
how good is he, how tall and bulked up is he, is he direct or not. Does any 1 even kñow dis guy???
YES YES!! Now most papers claim he is ours!!!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-News-Joe-Cole-of-Chelsea-will-sign-for-Arsenal-after-the-World-Cup-article449653.html
I doubt it will hapen
but if it does then great job by wenger he can help us on the right or left wing and it will possibly mean that Rosciky or Arshavin is being sold
I dont think WEnger will replace Fab with Cole as it might just cause an uprising
Why are you posting about the first team?
It’s called YoungGuns for a reason.
I am not sure why people are upset that we are signing young players. We released a load of them recently so we have to sign new ones. This does not affect the 1st team.
Its simple what WEnger is doing
He’s bringing the best players from around the world to Arsenal so in the future our first team is primarily filled with youth players saving the club money and these players will already know how to play the arsenal way
What Arsenal are doing has been going on for decades Barca has done he same thing for years and nodoby question them we are just catching up
Also for the last time – THESE SIGNING HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FIRST TEAM
J MAYBE YOU SHOULD WRITE IT JUST UNDERNEATH YOUR ARTICLE SO POEPLE WILL STOP POSTING STUPID COMMMENTS
i hope martinez deals wid crosses better than dis clip…..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqGAUM-lHY&feature=related
I second third and forth that, J can you not stop posts that are off topic? may be you could have an open forum section where off topic posts could be re-directed?
Back to the topic, this young lad (and his parents) should seek whatever opportunity they believe will best aid his development. He is at the end of his current deal, if Arsenal with their excellent track record for developing yound foreign talent is his preferred option then Feyernood and Chelsea miss out its simple. If however, like Fabregas you are just one year into a new lucrative deal with 5 years still to run, you are in contract and should be protected from the vultures. However, we do not know the small print in Cesc’s contract, there could be an option like if the club do not win anything, or Barca come calling or the club is not showing a certain level of ambition then the player may be able to request a move? I think this is what has happened here. Anyway i do not want to stray into the off topic zone, i am merely highlighting how a young player has choices whether he is in or out of contract.
I can see good reasons for limiting the movement of under 18’s but the flip side could be a young talent is receiving poor coaching and wants to train under better instruction with better facilities, do you stop the boy from bettering himself ?
If you can’t stop a non football 16 year old changing employer that invests in the kids’ training why/should you do it to 16 year old footballer ?
If you kid was good enough for Oxford University and all parties wanted him to go there why should he go to his local uni instead, its the same principal, if your kid was a musical genius, you would want them to attend the best school to develop their ability. It’s only natural.
hi guys, is samuel galindo officialy our player ?
Yeah I think so
I dont think its a done deal. From what ive understood hes been training with us since januray and that we have some kind of first option on him this summer. I sure J will let us know when he signs for real.
Imscouting website and I think even J thinks he’s coming to Arsenal in the summer
Im not saying he wont. Im just saying that from what I know hes not a Gunner yet. I might be wrong.
There’s nothing to talk about in youth players so I will go OFFTOPIC
Cole – Free
Shwarzer/Boruc – 3/2 million
Laurent Koscielny – 8 million
this maybe what we might end up buying this summer
AND
Cole – Can play on the right or Left WIng and will possibly result in the sale of Rosicky or Arshavin
Shwarzer/Boruc – Will possibly result in the loan or sale of Fabianski and Almunia will probably become no.2
Laurent – Will partner up with Vermaelen in the centre of the defense
Will these addition and hopefully us keeping Cesc what Chance do other Fans give our Team
This is What OUR LINEUP might be next year
————- Shwarzer/Boruc
Sagna ——– Laurent —– Vermaelen —– Clichy
———————— Song
Cole ————– Fabrgeas ———– Arshavin/Nasri
———— Van Persie ——— Chamak
we might play 4-4-2 but I am not sure where Song will fit in
————- Shwarzer/Boruc
Sagna ——– Laurent —– Vermaelen ——– Clichy
Cole ——– Fabregas —— Song/Diaby — Arshavin
——————— Van Persie —- Chamak —————-
I think Djourou might be partering up with Vermaelen next season. I hope so, I like him and I think the would compliment eachother very well. Im still very much awere of the fact the we need one, possibly to CBs anyway.
None of us have really seen much of Djourou to rate him either good or bad but I saw him in our last EPL games and he looked slow (probably because of his injury) But Giants like Djourou and Mertesacker suffer from a lack of speed and that will probably will be his achilles heel if he is slow
How do you rate him ????????
I dont have a problem with his pace at all when fully fit, a actully remember him as kind of fast, especially for such a big guy. In my opinion he looked very well rounded by that I mean that he has both pace, strength and height Its understandable to look of pace after being out for 9-10 months. As you said. I bace my opinion on what I saw of him 08/09 when he primarly lacked a little judgement, which is normal for a young CB and easy to develop.
I get that he probably wont be as pacy as a shorter player but there are few tall centerhalfs that is. And he is not by any means “super slow”. Considering Vermaelens pace though I do not think its a problem and as i said I think they would compliment eachother well. We do desperatly lack height in the back, thats something he would provide.
If we are playing another short CB next to Vermaelen next season we will suffer uttlerly at the back once again.