Henri Lansbury has joined fellow Arsenal youngsters Jack Wilshere and Kieran Gibbs in receiving England call ups, although the former Watford loanee has been named in the Under 21 squad.
Lansbury has been with the Arsenal first-team throughout pre-season after a productive loan spell with Watford in the Championship last season. He has previously featured for Stuart Pearce’s men at this level, but Henri is now expected to take over the holding role duties after former Gunner Fabrice Muamba pulled out due to injury.
England’s Under 21’s play Uzbekistan at Bristol City’s Ashton Gate on Tuesday night ahead of two must-win qualifiers next month; away in Portugal then at home to Lithuania.
The news comes 24 hours after Jack Wilshere and Kieran Gibbs were named in the full England team for the Three Lions friendly with Hungary. Wilshere and Gibbs join Theo Walcott in the squad, which also features academy product Ashley Cole. It means three Arsenal-developed prospects, plus Walcott, form a part of Fabio Capello’s ‘new look’ England.
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Nice one henri
SHOWS THE REGARD CAPELLO HAS FOR THE ARSENAL YOUTH SYSTEM THAT HE CALL UPON THESE PROMISING YOUNGSTERS. THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT .
The future’s bright, the future’s Red & White!
well said mate………………..
Is Arsenal Youth System going to be the main source of the England team in the future ? I think so as no other team focuses on the future for english players as much as Arsenal.Capello needs to take out the dead wood left in the England squad and add some promising english Arsenal players.
Given that we are light-years ahead of most clubs in producing youngsters with the skills necessary to compete on the World stage, I am always staggered to see how few players we get in the England squads at each level. The younger squads seem to be full of lower-league and Tottenham players, while we have excellent players like Bartley, JET etc. left out.
Misleading headline.
Should read “calls up” though I’d probably settle for “call ups”.
Yeah, what kind of ropey grammar is this blog peddling? Bad show I say!
I thought Pierce had got the message to leave our kids alone.
Not bad, from a team who hardly had an england player in their line-up last season today has 3 in the first team, 1 in the under21 and 2 in the under19. I gues it wont b a surprise to find 7+ arsenal players in england’s nxt wrd cup.. Lol!
By the way, does any1 knw whethr wellington wil b directly promoted to 1st team or wil he b loan out?
On Wellington silva…he can either be loaned back to brazil to play until january, or he can still stay at arsenal but cant play any matches..he can only stay and do training until jan because he would turn 18 before the new yr :) personally i think he should go get some playing time.
on merit i guess JET should also be there in the squad, he played well during pre season
I really thought that JET or Frimpong might have got an U’21 call up to be honest.
JET should be there but Frimpong is African.
Frimpong is an English national and hasn’t played a senior international game for Ghana yet, so he could still play for England. the question is, would he want to play for them over Ghana? also, it’s not a given that he’s good enough for the U-21 squad yet. central midfield is a strength in England’s youth teams. Rodwell, Lansbury, Jack Cork, Tom Cleverley, and Jordan Henderson are the players in the squad who can play centrally. All of them have significant Premiership or Championship experience,and overall it’s hard to argue that Frimpong is better then any of them.
david i can assure you that E. Frimpong is better than them all but he said last year in an interview with arsenal.com that he will play for Ghana at senior level.
i don’t even know why people are still pushing for the kid to show up for England..
if he makes it for arsenal why should we give a flying duck which nation he turns up for?
England will never win anything anyway with these clowns in charge.
Well done to these lads! I was hopeing frimpong would of got called up to the U21s. He will shine this season
I think Wenger will provide the “something different” kind of players. England reminds me alot of African teams. Individually they are good and are usely very direct players who provide good drive,strength and passion for the game but when you put 10 of them on the field without the special bit of creativity and fluidity, it doesnt work. Arsenal players bring that special bit of talent which England lacks. Wilshere in the whole behind Rooney or roaming will be a big help.
They must beware of England senior player asking them to get out from arsenal team
I just hope they don’t get discouraged by the methods of play and the tactics that the coaches utililze. They must realize that it’s gonna be a pretty long time before a true England squad is found. This whole thing is gonna take a while to sort itself out for you guys. They must also realize that Capello is NOT Wenger and the coaching methodology will be completely, and I mean completely different. That is what I am most worried about. They’ll really have to separate club career and international duties well for them to be successful.
these guys have enormous mental strength just to make it this far. I don’t think spending a week with Stuart Pearce or Fabio Capello (both of whom are excellent managers) is going to have an effect like you say. I mean, did Raymond Domenech ruin Nasri or Diaby? for that matter, did Malky Mackay ruin Lansbury at Watford? did Coyle ruin Wilshere at Bolton? did Alan Pardew (one of our less favorite managers if I’m not mistaken) ruin Alex Song? if you’re worried about managers with different styles to Wenger, how can you support sending players out on loan?
Your youth system comprises of players you have snatched from other clubs, your youth scheme is not one of envy, get over yourselves.
Jack Wilshere has been at Arsenal since 2001 (age 9). Gibbs has been here since 2004 (age 15). Lansbury has been here since 1999 (age 9). Walcott was 16 when he joined Arsenal.
you know, Ryan Giggs joined Man Utd at age 14, if you want to split hairs. Paul Scholes didn’t join Man Utd until he was 17 – a year older than Walcott when he joined Arsenal! bet you didn’t know that… I guess if you’re a Liverpool fan, Gerrard was only 7 when he joined Liverpool’s books. but Jamie Carragher was 12, so it evens out.
this isn’t one of the best lines of argument to pursue IMO.
No point arguing with a WUM.
Hope they all do well, Frimpong has chosen Ghana to represent
PEARCE WILL PLAY THEM UP FRONT TO MAKE SURE THEY DONT PASS THE BALL..TOO TECHNICAL BY FAR .
Re. Lansbury’s call-up to England u-21…the irony is absolutely hilarious. A slightly above average national team system that was mistakenly hyped up by fans and the media for the last couple of years picks a slightly above average midfielder who is mistakenly hyped up by fans in the blogisphere and the media.
I don’t dislike Lansbury but the truth is he was average all last season in the Championship, he was nowhere near Arsenal quality against Barnet a couple of weeks back, and his mistake agaisnt Warsaw…well it was quite simply embarrassing comedy.
One thing I will say…it will be good for Lansbury if this stint with the u-21’s reprresents the start of a transition to the d-mid position. A successful transition to the d-mid spot is the only realistic way he’ll have a future at Arsenal. Wilshere is almost a year-and-a-half younger and already so talented he’s deemed ready for a senior team call-up. When all are healthy, only a fool would consider Lansbury to be in the class of Wilshere, Nasri, Ramsey, and Cesc. He’s got virtually no hope of making it at Arsenal as a central midfielder.
Oh give me strength from amateur pundits spouting shit.
Lansbury was excellent for Watford last seasn and slate him for a mistake in a pre-season game is pretty lame.
YOUR NO MUG MUG
Haha! Thanks Stoke Gunner.
“Excellent for Watford last season”?? Really…? I have read on many occasions from Watford fans that Lansbury was 2nd best on the team to Tom Cleverly, the loanee from United. So, let me get this straight, 2nd best on a mid-table Championship team represents “excellence” in your eyes…? Well, if that’s the case we critque footballers with very different eyes.
Also, I’m slating him for his mistake, absolutely, because if any other player had made the mistake who wasn’t under the hype-machine like Lansbury is they would be skewered for it too, probably much worse than what I’ve done. Hyped or not, he has to accept responsibility for his play like anybody else. And, as much as you might like to brush it under the rug, his mistake against Warsaw was pure inept comedy. It was very much of the Almunia/Fabianski variety and all I did was clall it for what it was. I’m probably being polite, but so as not to disturb all those that have so much invested in this false sense of his talent, I will refer to his performance against Barnet only as mediocre.
What hype are you chatting about? There is no hype. ope, instead it is just you spouting shit at a young Arsenal player. For some reason you have taken a dislike to him.
I saw Lansbury in the flesh playing for watford and he and Cleverly were their best players. What more can he do at a Championship club apart from be their best player you idiot?
KC YOU SHOULD TAKE WENGER’S JOB .YOU ARE GENIUS.
He can do a lot more than be their best player. He can show the kind of talent that stands him out as an Arsenal quality player. I have read nothing from anyone, including the likes of you and others, that suggest he’s top quality. More importantly, I’ve seen nothing that suggests he’s Arsenal quality. He’s been one of the poorest players in pre-season, frankly.
As I wrote above, I don’t dislike Lansbury, I just see no reason to give his play a pass as so many like yourself seem willing to do. Note all the fuss about Fabianski’s mistake in the same game. People have commented on it quite frequently, and rightly so as it was terrible play that cost us a goal. Lansbury play was also terrible and cost us a goal, but not one peep about it. I just try to call it as I see it. With some players it’s accepted and with others, whom people look to protect or whatever, it’s challenged. So be it…
Mug,
…by the way… “idiot”? HaHaHa! Come on dude…! HaHaHa!
Thanks Stoke! I’ll give it some serious consideration! LoL!
you’re putting that much stock in one mistake in a preseason friendly? well at least Lansbury is better than Steven Gerrard…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJIi86iywqU
or Rafael van der Vaart…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE2pQvAjCVQ
Oh dear, you are judging players based on the Barnet friendly? Per-lease!
Give the lad a chance and let’s see how he develops. Comparing him to Wilshire is just plain lazy too.
Mug,
Yea, I’m comparing the two because they are on the same team competing for the same position. What’s so strange about comparing two players who are within 2 years of each other and are competing against each other for the same position?
it’s not always reasonable because players develop at different rates. at age 21, Gilberto was playing in the Brazilian 2nd division, after working at a candy factory for the previous 3 years. Alex Song didn’t look so hot when he was 19 either…
KC I don’t exactly see Wilshere as competition for Lansbury. The players whom Lansbury have to worry about are Nasri, Ramsey and Cesc. I don’t see Wilshere as a direct replacement for Cesc, therefore, he isn’t in competition with Lansbury. If Wilshere does play in the centre he should play in a more advanced role than say Ramsey or Lansbury. I know that is not what happened in pre-season, but that is what may happen throughout this coming year. I see Wilshere as more of a trequartista than I do a pure central midfielder like Lansbury and Ramsey. Wilshere will be a hybrid of Cesc and Ramsey in my opinion, while Lansbury is a more direct alternative to Ramsey.
MILO , WHO DID TREQUARTISTA PLAY FOR?
Trequartista is a tactical role not a player. He is an advanced midfielder that plays centrally between the oppositions defense and attack
Haha! You think Lansbury and Wilshire are competing for the same position?
Yeah, you are an idiot if you think that.
http://imageshare.web.id/images/6fjqqgrz4f4oe8st7fi.jpg
¿Qué es esto???
Cesc es humilde y bajar a la tierra. Este niño es irrespetuoso y tiene cerebro estúpido
Stoke Gunner Trequartista refers to a position on the field. It is an italian term, but I used to to describe Wilshere’s position. It basically means a CAM – centre attacking midfield player. Trequartista means 3 quarters, or 3 quarters of the way up the pitch, between the midfield and the strikers. This is what I meant by trequartista. Oh yeah…and how come I don’t get a checkmark above my name??? lol.
I am a big henri lansbury fan. One of the best young central midfielders in europe for me. Hes technically excellent and hes seems to have sorted out his attitude and stoped partying and socialising etc. Become more professional loan spell at watfrod done him the world of good
Kieran gibbs was awful for Norwhich loan spells for young players are about getting them ready for week in week out games.
I dont think jack wilshere is a central midfield hes better as a playmaker and i think lansbury is better as central midfielder.
He can control a midfield ie pass the ball, keep the ball, not give it away like frimpong, wilshere do.
Wilshere is a dribbler, runner he would do a better job than nasri behind the striker hes got more pace and hes stronger .
I always rmeber the euro under 17s hes was the best player alongside bojan krkic and eden hazard but hes had an illness and injury which has stopped his development but now he looks back to his best physically. He just needs a chance so unlucky to be injured in pre season i am 100% sure he would have plaed in the emirates cup.
Lansbury had glandular fever. Like you said john he was a terrific young player before the illness and struggled to reach the same levels afterwards.
Lansbury’s true position is as a box-to-box CM, bringing the ball out from the back and feeding it to the creative players. That’s the position that Wilshere played for most of this pre-season, but it isn’t Wilshere’s best position. That would be the AM role, acting as a playmaker. Who knows, maybe one day we’ll play a midfield three of Frimpong (DM), Lansbury (CM) and Wilshere (AM).
Milo,
I completely agree with you. Wilshere is best suited for the trequarista or fantacista role. But, as you point out, that’s not the role he’s performed all pre-season, and it’s on that basis that I see Lansbury as competition for Wilshere, Cesc, and Ramsey. If I’m not mistaken it was Wilshere for whom Lansbury was sbbed on against Warsaw, right?
Still though, very good point taken about Lansbury and his direct competition to Wilshere.
I think this is one of AW’s minor headaches in dealing with the huge talent that is Jack Wilshere. His system doesn’t really ideally support the trequarista role does it? Cesc can certainly play it, as can Nasri, and I feel Ramsey is talented enought to play it as well, and Wilshere seems born for it, but we don’t really play a system to supoort it.
Wilshere’s natural instinct is to move into that roll, but it can be dangerous (as we saw against Warsaw) and we have to make adjustments to support his instinct. Their first goal was a perfect example of this. Wilshere went with his instincts rather than yielding to the tactical discipline that the current “Cesc role” requires. He was caught too far up the field. The guy that scored the screamer should have been picked up by Wilshere but his offensive instincst got the better of him, and the guy had room to attack that he should not have had.
Until, the adaptations are made to the system to accomodate the ‘trequarista’ I still see all four players as having to battle for one of the two non d-mid spots.
But let’s take Wilshere out of that equation for a moment. Lansbury still has to fight with Cesc, Nasri, and Ramsey, a fight I would never bet on him winning. Not to mention Aneke, Ozyakup, Ebecilio, and Galindo, all possibly developing strongly in the next couple of years….
I really hope Lansbury make it at Arsenal, I think he is in the ray parlour mould.
Wilshere, Gibbs, Lansbury, Bartley and Murphy are the players that I hope will break to be regulars for England’s national team, maybe the later 2 are not sure to make it there or at Arsenal either, but they could do just that with a bit of luck and hard work too.
As for being hard on Lansbury for his mistake, I can’t understand the logic in it at all, he is a good player in the Arsenal mood, pass accurate and move (at least) and he is very good at that, he looked assured every time he got the ball and used it well (so he can’t be that bad).
Either way if we remember Song, Denilson, Diaby when they first arrived at the club and compare them to Lansbury I’am sure he is now better than either of them at the same age, so that must be a good thing at least, as they are all first team players at our club.
I would be more assured if he played instead of denilson at least now, although he needs to build more muscles if he wants to play in center of Arsenal’s midfield.
And at least Lansbury was back in the box trying to defend, something Denilson could do a bit more often. You’re right about Song, Diaby and Denilson, none of them were as good as Lansbury at age 19. He’s not an exciting, eye-catching talent and some people like to bash him unnecessarily for it, but the fact is he’s a smart technical player with a good range of passing, he works hard and he’ll grow into a fine player.
The technique is there, and if a player has that then the rest will come.
Roy,
“I would be more assured if he played instead of denilson at least now…”
Wow, see this is exactly what I mean by “hype”. Watch the Barnet game again and count how many Lansbury gives away possession with terrible one and two-touch passes. You are promoting that level of play over a kid who, at age 20 (which Lansbury will be in 2 months), led the Premiership in passing accuracy.
This ‘cult of incompetence’ that has developed against Denislon is completlely wrong. Anyone who would start Lansbury over Denilson in an important AFC match should have their head examined. But this is the stuff of “negative hype” run amok in the case of Denilson and “positive hype” run amok in the case of Lansbury.
JOH were u intoxicated when you wrote that wilshere has more pace and strength than nasri??!!! since nasri moved to arsenal he almost immediatly bulked up in size, and has always been played as sort of tricky playmaking winger instead of his prefered cm position because cesc plays there and because he is VERY FAST… its ridiculous that the only 2 comments ive left on this site have been defending nasri, i’m not even a massive nasri fan, he just strikes me as being massively under-appreciated!
…yea, agreed. He’s a very, very good player. And I feel he’s somewhat under-appreciated as well. I don’t know if he will be able to step in to the Cesc roll when Cesc leaves next summer, but he’s a top talent to be sure. His form in pre-season has been excellent.
Just goes to show what a complete embecile Raymond “Dumb-n-Ass” is for not selecting him for France this summer.
Also love the fact henri Lansbury is a gooner and from the North London area Enfield. He was also the first to come through wengers new youth policy he created 10 years ago .
Wrenny mate your right apart from your point on hes not eye catching.
What i like about lansbury is the ability to do everything, keep the ball, he can pass a ball, run with the ball, got a trick, can tackle, hes got pace, good in the air, comes late into the box ala lampard, score goals and hes got the leadership skills. Hes captained England unde 16s, under 19s hes a passionate, comitted player. Technically hes excellent. hes excellent at shiedling the ball away from defenders.
Hes similar to ramsey maybe hes got more pace and more agression than ramsey but hes a player who for me will be a world class player and captain his country and hopefully club.
Hes had glandular fever, injuries, been on laon to scunthorpe than watford now we need to see him in the premiership.
I dont think ppl have seen much of lansbury but i am telling you in that euro under 17 tounrment he was world class. I just cant believe he hasnt played in the premiership when you consider he was on the bench in the carling cup at 15. Shows how unlucky he is but wenger rates him highly.
JS IS IT TRUE LUKE AYLING LEFT BECAUSE HE HAD AN ARGUEMENT WITH STEVE BOULD AND REFUSED TO SIGN A CONTRACT?
Wilshere wasnt even born in London he was at Luton we have done an incredible job in getting him when he was 10 and hes a west ham fan!
strange the england manager call 4 young arsenal player but the england youth team the manager barely take any..difference between a top coach and the mug who coach in england youth set-up , he can see talent rather the physical attribute of the player
KC
I don’t know why are you insist that we must get rid of Lansbury to satisfy your standard of Arsenal Players quality has to have!
More importantly you should first answer the answer the question of comparing Lansbury to Song, Diaby and Denilson at the same age as him and say who is better really!
And if by chance if you are that fond with them now to forget how awful they was or some are still, you should never attack Lansbury based on a couple of matches in a preseason, or for being Watford’s second best player after Cleverly of Man United!
I’m 100% confident with Lansbury being a fine player for Arsenal for years to come, you know he was the captain and star of England U19 team before growing older.
The other thing is if you want to bet that can’t and should never play for Arsenal I suggest you lead a campaign to let him a playing time in the same way that Song, Diaby and Denilson had, and if he fails and was worse than them, then i will never doubt your opinion about him, but remember how many years’ experience wise (matches in the first team) before you say he failed or succeeded, He must have the same match time that all of them got before.
And he is entitled to make as many mistakes as them to learn from his mistakes and then see what we got in the end.
In conclusion, If ever we want to get the support of the English media, and have a local boy that loves the club that will never ask to leave for Barcelona, and have the talent to invest in and being coached by the best coach for his age, then I suggest you give the clubs local boy a little more chance before killing his chances to play for Arsenal.
I’m not From England and not too insistent on the giving more opportunities to the English players because they from the same country, but it is fair to say they should have the same opportunities as the foreign players got, as simple as that.
This has nothing to do with being biased, but I remember how bad the previews 3 played and in the end at least Song prevailed and proved the fans wrong, and the fans were happy by the outcome.
I fully expect Wenger to sell Denilson, Clichy, Djourou in the Future and replace them with his England’s latest batch of talented players, Diaby will have his last season to prove if must still be at Arsenal next season.
KC Lansbury was on the bench for a carling cup game against Liverpool at 15!
Last time i checked aneke, ozzie havent been on the carling cup bench what they are now 16,17?
I actually thought lanbsbury would be the first British player to break through way before wilshere, and gibbs but like i said hes been very unlucky.
diaby, denilson, song are good players but lansbury has got that leadership, motivation skills, hes a talker and hes very passionate you need those kind of players in your squad.
I feel we are mssing that song, diaby, denilson dont show enough authority in games they dont boss games and give the impression they dont care apart from denilson maybe but in midfield you need battlers and fighters not just good footballers
Since when has Lansbury been hyped up? he’s more like a forgotten man. Everyone at the club rate him very highly, he was training with the 1st team at 15 and was on the bench for carling cup at 16. He had a illness and has come back strong, and did well at Watford last year. Certainly not average, Malky Mackay praised him alot. He’s also very highly rated by England youth coaches and has captained U19s and others. And if you’re gonna judge Lansbury on one game then watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAdXWohZVI
alex,
I’m judging Lansbury on a very average run with Scunthorpe, a very average spell with Watford, and a very poor display during this preseason.
I know he could turn it around and become the player that som many of you fantacize him to be, but on the basis of his current play, that’s a longshot.
The excuse about his injury is used regularly, but it’s funny how Diaby, who suffered a devastating injury that left him out for the better part of a season, is not afforded the same excuse. This is what I mean by hype. The boy Lansbury is afforded every possible chance to become an Arsenal hero. That’s fine for people who need to see him and specifically him that way. But that’s not me. I prefer to praise those who deserve…who show it on merit based on their contribution to the club with their play on the field. Lansbury’s done nothing to warrant that praise over Wilshere, Ramsey, Nasri. And frankly, I think Aneke will be a better midfielder than Lansbury.
And for the people who sight his invlovement with the England u-19 set-up, it means fuck-all to me. England’s youth set-up is slightly more dismal, prosaic, and self-serving than the senior set up. I think England’s performance a the cup this summer is a fitting representation of how over-rated the entire England set-up is.
And for those of you who think I’ve got it against Ramsey, I say “good for you Henri for being 2nd best at Watford.” All I’m saying he isn’t currently anywhere near good enough to unseat the more talented youngsters ahead of him…Nasri, Ramsey, and Wilshere. And he’s looking at a world of hurt in his battle with Henderson, Aneke, Ozyakup, and possibly Ebecilio and Galindo. Good luck Henri…
When Lansbury does something worth praising, I assure all you over-the-top Lansbury fans I will be there to praise him. But the fact is, aside from a sitter that was set on a platter for him by JET, he hasn’t done much worth praising during his loan spell or during this pre-season. Walcott, Fabianski, and Almunia have also had poor pre-seasons but, as our resident whipping boys, it’s more than ok to point out their mistakes.
…but not the untouchable Lansbury…
Sorry, meant to say, ” and for those of you who think I’ve got it against Lansbury…”
We should just sell lansbury because he is so shit isn’t he? Have you not heard about late bloomers? Henri is highly rated by the staff for a reason, they spend more time watching him in training than everyone else. From what i’ve seen, he’s a good lad, box to box player with good technique and sensible play. You cannot expect every one of our young players to make immediate impacts like Jack Wilshere. That is just not realistic.
This is the very first time Lansbury has been anywhere near the first team, The very least you could do is to give him the decency of some support, a chance for him to prove his worth just like how many chances we gave Denilson, Song and Diaby. To write him off just like that is grossly unfair. Why is it wrong for him to be given the same chances Alex Song was given? We praise because we are supporters, we are excited and we are proud when a promising local lad comes through. Don’t we all yearn for another Tony Adams? And what, is so wrong about that?
Get over yourself.
Read what you write. You’re already writing him off. He’s just stepped into the first team! And we are supposed to whip him? On the basis of a few preseason games? You’ve clearly got something against the lad.
You need to get some serious, serious perspective.
kh,
What is absolutely hilarious to me about you and others is this notion that Song, Diaby, and Denilson were given this “kit-gloves” love and support that you want for Lansbury. I encourage you to think back to the time when Song was playing poorly at Charlton. I don’t recall all this ‘touchy-feely’ “let’s get behind the lad” crap. What I recall was a lot of over-the-top dismissal of him as pretty much hopeless.
Now, when I call it as I see it regarding a fan favorite, everyone gets their panties in a twist and says “relax…give him time”. The players you site didn’t get anywhere near the ‘free-pass’ for their poor play that you want me to give Lansbury.
Were people not raving about Denilson and Diaby when they first played? Granted, almost no one saw anything in Song back then, i’ll give you that. But fans did give Denilson and Diaby a chance WHEN THEY JUST STARTED OUT. If you still don’t get it, let me spell it out for you KC, as you don’t seem to be able to spell really well either: when Denilson and Diaby were at Lansbury’s current stage of career, they were afforded the same chances. I challenge you to say otherwise. And being afforded the same chances means given game time, forgiving them for their mistakes because it was their first/second season with the squad.
Denilson and Diaby aren’t given that love anymore by other Gooners simply because they have been in the side for too long and should not be making these percieved errors. Nevertheless they still should be backed as they are our players.
I don’t see Matthew Upson still around, despite him being a local lad. Lansbury is given time because he has JUST BROKEN INTO THE FIRST TEAM, or is AROUND THE FRINGES OF THE FIRST TEAM. You don’t seem to grasp this fact very well.
I’m willing to bet with you if Lansbury gives Fabianski-esque performances in his third/fourth season, he’ll have the boo-boys on his back. I’m sure.
You just don’t seem to like Lansbury, not even willing to give him a chance to cement a place.
Lansbury will become a world class box to box midfielder for Arsenal. NO doubt about it! wait til he’s 2 years older and much much more stronger. Then we are talking about class. Gerard have reason to be very very scared.
Everyone make mistakes even very experience players do. At least this was in pre-season and it was his first major mistakes so far. At this level you will make mistakes and you will be punished for it. But this Lansbury guy is something special. Give him at least 1,5 more years before saying he will not make it. Ramsey is a much more individual player than Lansbury is but he will be very very important to in the future.
If it’s a simple fact of Lansbury being a “promising local lad” and therefor getting “special treatment”, so be it. He’s local and therefore “liked”/”praised” more than the others. So his faults will be ignored for the sake of “hope”… That’s fine if people just admit it and stop acting like this whole “leave him alone” crap is something they apply fairly to everyone.
“…please mean ole’Mr. KC, don’t be so hard on poor young Lansbury…” Cry me a river…!
He’s a talented young pro and will do fine. He just don’t look good enough for us. If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize to all you Lansbury Lovers write here on this site.
I do not no why people are going on about Frimong not being in the England U21’s team because he has already stated that he wants to play for Ghana so there is know point in picking him for the team in the first place if he wants to play for the country of his birth.
its no wonder the national team suffers when there is so little patience with young english talent .people seem to want instant super stars with no natuaral progression .some of the negative stuff written about our young talent is so typical of the present mentality in the world concerning absolute success right now.talent needs time to be nutured and encouraged.
There are 3 roles in the centre of our midfield, the attacking midfield role [Cesc], defensive midfield role [Song], the Bridge between the 1st 2 roles [Diaby]
Its the diaby role that Lansbury, Ramsey are competing for, it is basically the [box-to-box role]
APPARENTLY WENGER HOPES TO INTRODUCE THE NEW ‘ SWISS ROLE ‘ TO THE MIDFIELD
Djourou WILL BE TRIED
Kc Scunthorpe he was their best player and at Watford he was good he played consistently in the championship were guys like Jay Thomas, Kieran Gibbs, Jay Simpson weren’t.
Wenger said he’s will be a “big big player for arsenal” you rarely hear that from wenger on an arsenal player especially an English player
On the Watford thing it shows with age you get better Tom cleverly is what a year or two older than him?
@John
Unfortuately Wenger only a couple of years ago also said Randall is as good as Wilshere,perhaps he was trying to engineer a loan move for the boy.I agree with Landsbury being a top young player,it not for illness I reckon he may well have nailed a place in the starting line up by now.
Lansbury will add alot to arsenal first team squad. Its great hes been promoted to the first i hope he gets a chance.
We need as many British players as possible there is no doubt to win a premier league you need some British players in your squad they give that extra grit, determintaion.
I have seen both good and bad from Lansbury. I think he can make it at Arsenal. He looked a little nervous during the pre-season. Actually he looked very nervous. But this is his first chance with the 1st team. Give him a year I say. As for Denilson, I think once he gets back to full health, he will have A GREAT year for Arsenal. I have said this all along. I still rate Ramsey as a better player than Lansbury, but not by a whole lot.
And John, you said that Song looks like he doesn’t care out there. How do you figure???? HE’s stuck around through thick and thin and is now a beast!!! He tackles well and just because he isn’t fast or doesn’t run a lot doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. He is given a certain space of pitch to cover and he covers it well. I think we couldn’t ask for a better defensive midfielder in Song. He has come out and said how much he loves Arsenal before…I’m kind of shocked to hear anyone say this…
MIlo i am not saying hes a bad player.
I am just saying hes gives you the impression he doesnt care hes not a talker, leader , he does his thing and thats it likewise with diaby, nasri, rosicky, arshavin, etc.
You can judge lansbury in the game against barnet IE the numpty that is KC or you could see the quality he had when he came on against Fulham in the premiership making his premiership debut at 19 which is hard to believe.
He wanted the ball instantly, wanted to get on the ball hes one of those players who isnt scared to have the ball in tight areas or anywhere across the pitch.
You can tell that because in the legia game when they scored the fifth instead of hoofing it ihe wanted to control the ball and play it out from the back.
But thats inexperience.
Not everyone has to talk John. Rosicky doesn’t care??? Nasri doesn’t care??? You are crazy John. They both seem to care a lot for me. And how do you know these layers don’t talk. NOt everyone has to yell you know. Cesc doesn’t talk either. Neither does Wilshere. I guess they don’t care either do they John?? You have a very narrow mind when it comes to footballers. You like dribblers who talk and can go past players. That seems to be all you like.
Pearce only adopts hoofball tactics which is why wilshere and others from arsenal have never had particularly good games. They are always bypassed by game killing long balls.
Arsenals problem is we dont have leaders and we are not defensively good enough mainly because there are not enough talkers.
Ppl who go to the emirates you can quite clearly see arsenal have a problem with communication and i am not going to lie players speak french to each other as well which is just wrong
MILO U MUPPET i said nasri, rosicky, diaby, song, GIVE THE IMPRESSION they dont care. I DIDNT SAY THEY DONT CARE.
Man you really a numpty
I am getting quite annoyed by all the racist Marxists here who keep denying Frimpong’s African root’s and trying to claim him as English.The boy says his African,looks African,is African.What is it with you people does Ghana not deserved to be a Nation? Do you still think England has her old imperial Empire?
TheDaddy,
“The boy says he’s African, looks African, is African”.
…what do Africans look like exactly?
Lansbury was excellent at youth level and then got too many injuries at an important time in his development (16/18 age). Still has quality but needs consistent games at the top level to really judge him now. Leaving him as a squad player for this season seem pointless imo. Can he not get a Premiership loan like say Jack Cork did last season?
John i’m not a numpty at all. They look like they care to me. I’ve nver been to the Emirates and I might neve rbe able to gom but from what I can see, they look like they care. As for them speaking french, what would you expect. Vermaelen, Clichy, Sagna, Djourou, Koscielny, Song, Diaby, Chamakh , Nasri, and probably someone as cultured as Rosicky can speak French. So that is the easiest way for them to communicate. As for you, “TheDaddy” people are not trying to claim that Frimpong is English, they just want him to be able to have the chance to choose between Ghana and England. He should at least be able to have the choice shouldn’t he??
Why? He’s African and proud of it.
OK then that is his choice, but at least he had the feedom to choose, right??
We’re talking about “International” football,not club football.Going by your logic I should have the choice to be able to play for China despite not being Chinese.
Well ,you have to have at least some chinese roots to play for China. If you wanna use that as an example. Use Koscielny as an another example. He can choose to lpay for Poland or France and he wants to play for France. I’m just saying that it is a good thing that they all have a choice isn’t it?? If it isn’t by you, then I guess I’m a communist, as you say, and you are not a communist. Who really cares???
i think lansburyis an overrated player who in the reserves a couple of seasons ago looked really poor he may have improved but not enough to warrant a england u21 call up
Lansbury when he did play for the reserves came on as a right winger usually as a sub and didnt look right
I personally didnt think he recovered from his fever and thus going on loan to scunthorpe than watford has dobe the world of good in him.
Frimpong is a disgrace really. He should be playing for England, England have given his family everything, house, eduaction, and he goes and treats them like dirt.
Frimping would be a nobody if his family didnt get a visa to stay in the UK. Hes a lucky boy i really hope he plays for England.
….awwww Good ole’ John,
Hey john, you know what buddy, you can choose between the future and the past, between ignorance and reason.
Actually buddy, there’s a cure for ignorance. It is not a terminal condition. But you have to be aware of your own ignorance. The best way to become aware of your own ignorance is to read and to get out of your comfort zone a little bit. Yes, the world can be a scarry place sometimes but for the most part people are good and don’t bite.
…hang in there dude!
He does not want to play for England and that is fine by me
Don’t be such a dick. Who are you to say if he should play for England or Ghana? Lots of Africans choose to represent their homeland, people like Kanoute and Sissoko. Nothing wrong with that, his choice entirely.
john im just going to disregard all of your comments from now on…u are an idiot