Welcome to this weekends Loanees Watch – Young Guns’ analysis, reports and updates on the progress of the young starlets currently plying their trade away from the Emirates Stadium. You can read all the latest reports below.
Håvard Nordtveit‘s loan spell with Nuremberg has ended on a positive note, after they beat FC Augsburg in the Bundesliga playoffs to guarantee their place in the German top flight next year. Håvard finished the domestic season as a regular, but he failed to get off the bench in either game of the two-legged fixture. Nuremberg, who had a 1-0 lead from the first leg, won 2-0 this evening, meaning they claimed safety 3-0 on aggregate. You can read more about the 19-year-old’s future plans, here.
Pedro Botelho was an unused substitute for Celta Vigo as they suffered defeat against Elche. Botelho returned to the squad following arguments with coach Eusebio Sacristán, but he is destined to complete the season on the bench after the ugly incident two weeks ago.
Who do u guys think is a beta prospect between Bartley en Nordtviet
Bartley.
Nordtveit
thanks for the info on these two players as its harder to keep up with their progress of loanees abroad
luke ayling
Who do you lads think will be on loan next season taking into account the new squad regulations for the PL next season?
I think Eastmond should go.
I want Eastmond to stay and fight with Denilson or Song for the place DM he might not beat SOng but I think he can beat Denilson for the spot
have any of you seen a footy match in 3D. is it any good?
Nordtveit has been disappointing so far. I expected quite a lot more from him to be frank but he still has time on his side I guess.
Not sure who will make it, but i think Nordtveit will come into the team next season and Bartley will spend one more season on loan.
Nordtvelt hasn’t got the physicality to be successful in the EPL. Too soft. He often played as a DM in Germany and not a CB. He was bought at 2 million but I can see the likeness of Senderos in him. So much promise but incapable to make it.
How on earth can you compare Senderos to Nordtveit? You obviously have no clue whatsoever..
He’s been playing regularly in a German top flight side, albeit one of the worst. Still, it’s an achievement to even be on the pitch at his age at, say, West Ham or Hull. Or have I just lowered my standards too much over the last few weeks?
he not played regularly he wents months without playing
Ppl we shouldnt judge players on thier loan spells. Loans usually are thier to toughen up players and make them mentally ready for week in week out football.
Kieran gibbs is a good example i couldnt see him breaking through. He went to Norwhich was awful for Norwich but he came back stronger and more physical and looks a player now. Likewise with Lansbury who for me is one of the best young midfielders in europe. I saw his interview with ATVO hes changed alot his attitude seems to be spot on now
yeah he looks grown up doesn’t he
he’s got a beard and the whole grown up look going for him
Wilshere can play in the PL with Bolton I hope Lansbury can stay with the first team for atleast the first 6 months and if Ramsey returns then he can go on loan if not Wilshere can come back and Lansbury can go on loan hopefully to a PL side so we can watch him week in and week out
bartley 100%
Bundesliga is a tough league alot of tall players play in the bundesliga. Most teams in Germany have 6 or 7 giants its a good preparation for the premiership
Heres a news flash for people that just don’t get it. Young defencive players will always look worse when playing on a bad team. Attacking can be done with 1 players ability on the ball but defence is a collective thing and will always be harder if you play on a bad team. Nordveit’s problem was that he found it hard to position himself properly to break up attacks. It had nothing to do with how physical he is. He simply was a step late most of the time. He will get better at that with time.
shane you cant know how good Norvedit is because none of us have seen him playing regularly
he might be a good player in a bad team but if he one of there better players then he would have been a regular (if I am not wrong) and he wasnt so I doubt he was one of their best players
I have watched several games of him this year , and exactly what I said was his issue. I don’t know if he is good enough or not because like I said, it is hard to judge a Defensive player in a bad teams. Espceially defenisive mid because on a bad team you can find yourself just chasing the ball the whole game.
J,
I was wondering, now that the season is over, if you could do a rundown of what prospects in the youth system actually have a realistic chance of someday being regulars for Arsenal.
Thanks
no way of knowing whos going to make it maybe if you have a player of wilshere or Szchesny quality then you can say they have a very very good chance but no one can know
who’s going to make it
A lot of players who look great in the youth system are flops in the first team
There is no way to judge Norvelt seriously it would be like taking any of our senior players and sticking them with hull for a season only its worse he hasnt the experience yet
when your in a poor team you have no chance same works with pre season he may look great playing with the players we have but at that age he still has time on his side and a future with us.
Nodveit is good enough. So is Bartley. Give them a chance and u’d see the star in them! How good was JT at their age? Lol.
Like a said 4 months ago, Nordtveit has no future in Arsenal. Bartley on the other hand looks like a better prospect and he has every chance to make it at Arsenal. I think we should let Randall, Simpson, Watt and Eastmond go, because they will NEVER be good enough for Arsenal. I don’t know what Wenger sees in Eastmond, he is only playing out of trouble making zero impact on the game, just passing around..no tackles, no headers, no shots, no attacking passes.
Guess you didn’t watch Eastmond against Bolton and Liverpool where he was very impressive, did very well infront of the defence sweeping up and making interceptions.
@me
have you lost it
Eastmond has surpassed everyone’s expectations.
99% of people thought he was one of the least talented players in our under 18 winning team last season but Eastmond has the right attitude and that’s what a player like him needed and he hasn’t looked out of place in the PL which a lot of people do
Bartley has all the tools, but needs to improve tactically, much like Djourou
Nordtveit has got mad skillz and a great passing range. Good for a defensive player. Could end up a quality DM/Sweeper. Probably not dominant enough as one of two centre backs. Good attitude though.
Who knows if Norvedit is better than Bartley or Ayling
The player who makes it into the first team and becomes a regular will probably be judged a success and those who dont failures
Still its good to have 3 good options – My favourite from the three is Bartley everytime I see him I think of a player with the same potential as Ferdinand he just needs to keep impressing in his loan spells.
Nordveiit finishes his loan spell on a high by not playing in his last two games? jesus he must have been god awfull in the games he did play.
Dont see how people think hes going to be challenging for a squad place next season if he cant keep a place in that team. Send him on loan to an english club next time.
What the fudge has happened to Barazite? So many stories about him last year and he’s been barely mentioned this term. Is he injured?
no he is not. but he was recently injured i think and did an operation. i personally rate him, but youth players seem to fluctuate in our minds based on how inconsistent they are. But we are too impatient. People actually think we should get rid of Vela, but we all know he is quality. Barazite is quality also.
Like I have been saying, as a youth player you need to look for quality and not be misguided by quinity. You see the quality of goals Vela scores. He will become more of the finished article as he gain experience but a kid that scores the quality of goals he has already scored…..really incredible how people say he won’t make it. Another 1 is Bendtner. Everybody is raving about Chamahk but I bet Bendtner will be the one that has the better year next year.
Ah I see, thanks.
Just for the record, I don’t doubt the kid’s ability for one second, I was only asking as this blog was full of stories about him last season and it’s gone noticeably quiet on Barazite this term.
Nordtveit was a regular when he was on loan in Lillestrøm in Norway before he went to Germany. He was usually a right back there. And he actually played really impressive there. In Nürnberg he was a regular to begin with, but the club didn’t do very well and they got a new coach and he has spent most of his time since on the bench. Very unfortunate, because he had more good games than bad, most of the time he was average.
With Chamakh coming in we now have 3 players on top which really knows how to head, not forgetting Song is displeased with his goalscoring ratio and wishes to improve. The future is always sunny for Arsenal!
Just for the record I followed Nortveit’s progress in the Norwegian league and want to say that he was in no way “impressive” there – at least not unless you are looking to recruit for a 2nd tier Norwegian league squad. He didnt show pace, strength or positioning aptitude. Not for a full back and not even if you look at him as a converted center back temping at RB.
I’ve seen Senderos and Djourou as teenagers do stints at full back and they looked FAR better – and htose guys havent made it at the top level.
One has to only look at how Ivanovic at Chelsea has done at right back or how Sol Cammpell effortlessly slotted into full back as a young player, or Wes Brown or John O Shea, to understand how little potential Nordtveit showed in Norway.
I cant speak to his performance in Germany, as I did not see his games there but honestly if he wasnt better than what he showed in Norway, then I think folks need to be realistic and just write the guy off.
Its a harsh summary and one that I would rarely make on a young player but honestly even Coquelin would make a better CD or RB or DM than Norrdveit ever will.
Hey, what do you mean by “even Coquelin would make…”? Coquelin is by far the best DM we have at youth level. He’s ten times the player Eastond can ever dream of being…Mr. Wenger should stop giving favor to English players!