Arsenal forward Wellington Silva is learning the “Dennis Bergkamp” role with parent club Fluminense, after impressing as a substitute in the first two fixtures of the new Brazilian Série A season.
Silva’s stock has risen significantly since he signed for the Gunners and he’s now considered a star in his own right in Brazil. Promoted to the first team after an impressive pre-season, coach Muricy Ramalho is working closely with the precocious prospect. His two substitute appearances so far have yielded a new side to the 17-year-old, a defensive, hard working side.
Fluminense possess an impressive strike force, with Hertha Berlin loanee André Lima and former Lyon hitman Fred the notable names. Flu’s opening game of the campaign was a 1-0 defeat to Ceará, where Wellington was introduced with 10 minutes left. He ran, chased and tracked back well, as well as looking dangerous with possession. Operating just off Lima in a 4-4-2, he looked every bit a deadly number 10.
Yesterday saw their second game of the season. A home fixture with Goianiense, which they won 1-0. Again Silva came off the bench, and again he showed the defensive aspects of the game which impressed everybody. He still needs to tighten up on his positional and tactical play, but Wellington is learning to find a balance between his flamboyant, skillful style, and a defensive and hard working attitude he will need to succeed in Europe.
The future is looking very promising for young Wellington.
I saw the last game cause thought he would start. But number 10 ( dont know his name ) started for him. But as he got on you could clearly see his flair and ability. He is by far the best technical player in their team!!! Cant wait to see him in red and white!!! He looks also as a really humble friendly boy. So there shouldnt be a problem with his attitude like with other brazialians!!!
arsenal4ever,
I’m sorry but this was a good comment until the end when it reached a level of idiocy that is rare even for the blogisphere!
“Brazilians with Bad Attitudes?!!!”… Are you kidding me! What Brazilians would you be referring to I wonder? The Brazilians I recall who’ve made a lasting contribution to the club of late are Edu, Gilberto Silva, Eduardo, and Denilson. Not one attitude problem among them. In fact, as a group their attitude has been nothing less than outstanding. The Brazilians who’ve represented the club have done so with nothing bot class! How you could be misguided enough to start labeling Arsenal’s Brazilians as having “attitude problems” is beyond me. Based on the impecable conduct of Arsneal’s Brazilians, I would love to have more of them. They could be excellent models for the French (Gallas), the Spanish (Merida and Jose Reyes) the Togolese (Adebayor), the Russian (Arshavin), and yes the English (Bentley, Ass’Hole, and young Zak Ansah who sings the praises of the Mancs while wearing our beloved Red and White).
And if you were referring to bad attitudes by Brazilians in general…those who play for other clubs…who ‘the hell cares!!! They don’t play for Arsenal so what’s it matter anyway?!!!
Whats about Robinho, Adriano and Ronaldinho? They dont have a brillant work rate. This was what I ve meant for example. They easily loose their fun if they need to work their socks off. Our brazilians had or have good attitude. In this case you are right!!
He is probally speaking of the partying mentality which is very much part of the Brazilian culture.
Erm Pedra Botelho has a shockingly bad attitude for one and yes the rest of teh Arsenal ones have been good but many more have terrible workrate and get fat from 29….! Fact
I’m very happy about this acquisition as it looks like he’s genuinely a star in the making with the right attitude. He joins next January, right?
Well, he really is an out-and-out goalscorer, shouldn’t be transformed into a provider. With all due respect to Bergkamp and the role itself, Arsenal have an abundance of technical second strikers, someone who puts the created chances away is the main priority. Cracking prospect though, hope he turns out to be the goalscorer Arsenal need.
I also saw his last game, he didn’t get many chances on the ball, but when he did you could immediately see he’s a classy player. It’s also noticeable that his teammates looked for him when he came on and tried to pass to him. It’s shows they believe in his talents which is great seeing as he’s still an unproven 17 year old.
Think we’ll play him at LWF in the future. Anyway Wilshere has the Bergkamp role locked up!
Berkhamop was a support striker or a second striker wilshere is not he is a midfielder. Van Persie is the closest thing we have to the Berkhamp. I really hope to see him with Chamak upfront next year tearing up defence.
Wilshere isn’t a central midfielder. At the closest he’s an attacking midfielder, but his best position is in the traditional no 10 role, as Wenger himself has already stated. But he’ll probably play at RWF for us for the near future.
Wilshere always looks good on the right cutting in on his left foot and shooting, but can pick passes when playing in CM, like a young fabregas. Ive never seen him play off the striker though. I think people just assume he’d be good there (and they might be right) but I dont think its based on anything hes done yet…
Wilshere has played off the striker, as a traditional no.10 a couple of times with Bolton, that’s where Coyle used him against Chelsea.
Every one is talking about what Wilshere is lol like he can only do one position. You don’t have to look far to find a very similar player to Wilshere. INIESTA. Wilshere in the future will be a star at rightmid, one of the center midfielders, or if it is in a 4-4-1-1 then in the “bergkamp role”.
We don’t anyone that can play the Bergkamp role? Erm…..Arshavin????????????????
Yh i have been impressed with him. hes got a great attitude especially coming from povetry.
How tall his he? Where is he going on loan to?
BTW JS have u seen henri Lansbury interview on ATVO the kid has matured. I remeber your article on his partying lifestyle. He seems to have changed alot and seems to be more mature.
a lot of great players from brazil come from poverty
Re: Lansbury, I laughed when he said playing Sat Tues Sat Tues means you have to take care of your body! (=less partying?)
JS u heard any rumours about Arsenal making a bid for Ron vlaar? Some rumours in Holland doing the rounds Arsenal and Fenerbache are intrested in him
That’s brilliant…. too bad we don’t play the Bergkmap role in our team anymore!?!?!
We could change in the future though. Invert our front-line to have one player behind two strikers, although we’d need fullbacks that are better going forward to provide width (ie: Gibbs at LB and Eboue or new signing at RB)
another Carlos Vela
Wellington SIlva is technically brilliant and that’s why we bought him every player we buy are technically brilliant and all of them are great on the ball
His work rate has been awesome in recent games but when you come off the bench you are suppose to be full of energy and until he works like this an entire game I am not going to say he has a great work rate
What he does have is a fighting spirit a lot like wilshere and SIlva can play in the wings or as a support striker but I am sure with us he will be played as a winger his crossing in some cases has been out of this world.
He curves the ball past the defenders and places it right in front of the striker truly unbelievable and he does it regularly which is even more astonishing it might be the balls they use but unbelievable
I see him more in the messi mould than as a Berkhamp although I will love to have a next berkhamp aswell but in the striking options for the future we have Vela and Bendtner and they both will work really well for us in a 4-4-2 formation
wellington should be molded into a overmars not a bergkamp or maybe the brazilian ronaldo.arsenal need a out an out trickster who can burst round players and score easily.
he is exactly that
arsenals attack on potential looks out of this world.
future midfield and attackers
lansbury jet ramsey
wilshere afobe wellington
dont that attack on potential look like a future great.
…yes it does! And it looks even greater when you include Chuks Aneke, whom you’ve left out of the mix.
Well, well, i haven’t got the opportunity of seeing him, but i’m sure he’ll be a great player 4 us. If not, wenger wouldn’t have fucked out £3.5m for him. I’m sure he’s class. Can’t wait for january to come!!
its 5 mil. wengers paid 3.5 now n 1.5 wen the lad arrives. its co-ownership rt now
I’m brazilian and a supporter of Fluminense and Arsenal (or if you all prefer, a “Tricolor” and a Gunner), and I assure you that Wellington is a good player and is a good kid. I watch every game of Fluminense and I believe the best way to improve Wellington’s skills is to put him in the pitch litle by litle so the press cannot spoil him ( yes, that’s a real problem in Brazil, the press overate youngters and spoil them for life like Robinho).
In summary, I’m sure Wellington will be well prepared for Wenger because Muricy Ramalho is a Champion (he won the brazilian championship in 2006/2007/2008 and know how to deal with the press and the youngsters). I hope the kid can put Arsenal back in the track of titles, cause we are struggling a bit, but like the crowd always say in Emirates: “Keep the faith”.
he is by far the best technical player at Fluminense!!! Each time he is on the ball he can create something special. I dont think Messi was better at this age!!!
Thanks for the inside mate! =)
Arsenal4ever…Are you joking? You don’t think Messi was better at 17? lol. Did you see Messi at 17? He was dominating the u20 world cup on the way to winning the title and the golden ball. Then soon after he was starring for Barcelona on their way to the Champions league title before getting injured and not getting to play in the finals. Messi is one of the 17 year old that was just out of this world. Only 2 other I can think of that were that good at 17 would be Ronaldo and Pele.
probably you are right shane but Wellington could be like him!!
messi, Ronaldo are incredible talents but if you look at Silva then no one can really say that he doesnt have the same potential.
We paid 3.5 million for him before he even became a first teamer that tells me that Wenger say real talent in this kid and he has shown glimpses of how good he in the first team
Can he become the next messi remains to be seen but does he has the potential or talent to be the next messi? then the answer is yes he does have the talent
yes Andrew you are right! He was 1 or times with us for training but does Wenger still has his senxe for world class talent if we have the likes of Denilson? Hmm I am not sure if he is still the right manager. Cesc will leave if Wenger will stay or not!!! If we need to spend we should do but our manager is to stubborn and thats worrying me!!!
Is he definitely going to be an Arsenal player? Have we actually signed him? WHAT HAPPENED TO SAMUEL GALINDO?
yes coming in january then he will be 18!!!
you can actually cut the hype with a knife!
this kid has skills but he’s nothing special…he looks a bit like a brasilian shaun wright-phillips!
he’s small and he’s going to stay small. he can dink around with the ball well enough but he will be brushed off it with ease in the premier league. maybe, maybe he might challenge vela for the left wing spot in 3-5 years.
i think the arsenal fans are loisng it bigtime. any signing arsene wenger makes is automatically assumed to be the next messiah. actually wenger hasn’t signed a really good player for cheap in a very long time. song, fabregas and clichy were the last batch. wenger is losing his touch cos these guys were bought ages ago.
what??? nothing special??? I saw him in some games and each time he did someting special!!! If it was a dribbling or just a pass or cross. Messi wasnt better at this age!!! Wenger wouldnt pay that much for such a young talent if he wasnt special. I heard they scouted him for at least 2 years!!! And 4 goals in 1 half for his first time playing against an english team isnt that bad I think. You are right he could have trouble with the physical game in britain but as far I am concerned I dont think so.
Your wrong!
Vela, Bendtner, Diaby, Walcott, Ramsey, Szczesny, and Freeman would all easily sell today for 200-500% more than what we paid for them!
And that doesn’t even take into account the potential profit on players we’ve brought up straight from the Arseal Youth Academy. It remains to be seen what Gibbs, JET, Wilshere, Afobe, Aneke, and Lansbury could bring in from the market place, but suffice it to say that every one of these players will likely bring in far more than what it cost the club to educate them in the ‘Arsenal Way’. To say AW “hansn’t signed a really good player in a long time” is a massive stretch, IMO. It remains to be seen, but I believe the club will be making massive profits for the next 10 years or so on the players AW has either bought as youngsters or cultivated from the academy.
He plays like robinho but with a bit of passion – hes going to be a hit.
And arsenal fans dont hype up every signing. No one was this excited about song, diaby, denilson, adebayor or 90% of the players we have bought.
I am just going to pretend like this guy was just trying to start an argument and I am just going to move on.
Yeah right. How can anyone question Arsenes touch after he brought in an unknown guy playing leftback in the Dutch leauge. A year later hes in the team of the year in the best league in the world at centerback. Thats utter bullshit right there mate. You can question Wenger in alot of ways, but his judgement of a player is the best there is.
Is Wellington transfer to Arsenal is imminent comes January ? because isn’t Fluminense want to have in for another one year before he can be transfer, and the agreement with arsenal is done deal between this club but cannot be stamp out because of the player is still not at an eligible age. Do some one in the know tell me more about it, before I harbour any hope or expectation on this kid.
I can’t remember if he was joining us in the summer or the next, no clue.. can anybody tell me? I know that there might be a problem with his work permit… thx to anybody that can give me an answer :))))
In january right? I dont know if he will have to go out on loan. I read something about getting a special talent work permit for him, such as the one Denilson got. Dont know though, I might be in to deep here! ;)
I watched the first game. He came in and played a winger position. And yes while he looked decent on the ball you are over hyping what he did in 10 minutes lol. He gave the ball away a few times and had a couple bad crosses. He did have a few good dribble though. I rate him as high as the next guy but please don’t write bogus reports.
By the way would people stop writing about “who has the Bergkamp role” LOL. We play a 4-3-3, THERE IS NO BERGKAMP ROLE. Wellington Silva will make a fantastic winger. The kind of winger we need. He can run at players with pace and skill. He is also a goal scorer.
I have seen enough of Wilshere to say that he would fit perfectly into the “Bergkamp Role”. I haven’t seen enough of Wellington Silva to say the same. From what I have seen he is more of a natural winger, and if he is being played in the middle, it may be to help build upon his physicality and defensive responsibilities. People forget how deep Bergkamp actually lpayed in order to recieve the ball. He really was more like an attacking midfielder than an out and out striker. He didn’t defend much, and he could score goals with the best of them, if he wanted to, but his best postition was right where he played. Between the midfield and the strikers, or right behind the striker in the 4-4-2. I don’t think we will go back to 4-2-2 anytime soon, so Wilshere will play in one of the two attacking midfield postitions or as a winger. I personally would like to see him play in the midfield because of his passing ability. The two attacking midfiled postitions are the 2 positions that most closely resemble the second striker position, or the “Bergkamp Role” in my opinion.
If we played a 4-4-2, He would not play in the Bergkamp role. He would be a striker. Very much a Henry type with a bit more step overs.
I would love Jack in Cescs role next to Rambo and Wellington up on the left. And for my own pleasure im throwing in Hazard up there aswell.
Tech9
Angha Ayling Bartley Gibbs
Lansbury
Chucks Rambo
Jack Benik Wellington.
Thats just moutwatering. I know Wilshere should be more central but im giving him the Messi role. Just had to fit in Aneke. People say Lansbury is to weak for DM but im not so sure, he looks to have it in him. With Tech9 going all mental Lehman style I think the backfour could be rocksolid.
Yes! I know it wont end up like this but its great fun picking the future team.
who knows how many of the players make it
all these players looked great in the reserves or the youth team but will they look this good in the PL remains to be seen
but angha as a RB is crazy
bergkamp didnt actually play as deep as you are suggesting until the end of his career when he was younger he played further forward
I think there are definetly some stand out players but we tend to list every Arsenal young player as a future first teamer. There are a few I would gaurentee barring injury, will make it. I don’t really get all the hype with Luke Ayling. Not saying he won’t make it, I just think the hype is 2 much along with Henderson. Angha is a little young to call him a for sure thing. I have never seen him play tho.
I still believe Coquelin will be a quality CDM.
same hear. i dont hear coquelins name on this site 2 much. he is solid with great skill he will be in the diaby roll in cm
I feel he would be more of a defensive mid then Diaby but yah, When I have seen him, he always looks quality. Cant really understand why Eastmond has moved ahead of Coquelin excpet for one reason but I am not going to say because people get all defensive.
The reason Eastmond is ahead is simple: hardwork and strong will…thats the impression you get from Banfield and the other staff. Perhaps Coquelin isn’t showing the same graft and donkey work..who knows but Wenger makes these decisions and tbf, given his past record we can’t slate him.
Coquelin is being tried to be made into a RB I thought everyone knew that and that’s the reason Eastmond was moved ahead of him in the DM position
Coquelin is technically great and a terrific tackler and if learns his positioning and crossing then he will surely be a great RB in the future.
He was moved to right back because Eastmond took over at def mid and we dont have a real right back in our youth ranks that was not on loan so someone was going to have to play there. Coquelin is not the answer at rightback. He should be being groomed at def mid. We will need 2 strong def mids and I think Coquelin should be one of those along witth of course Song. Just not a fan of Eastmond. Eastmond is a very very average player to me. Doesnt really put in tackle, cant pass over 3 feet. Just don’t see it with him. Kind of reminds me of a poor mans Denilson, but hey I can be wrong.
Wellington looks a great prospect and his stock is rising. Will he be able to play for us immediately after his 18th or will he have to go to Spain like Vela?
Quite sure he was referring to players such as Robinho, Rivaldo and Ronaldo. All good players but have/had attitude problems.
Nice post!
Eastmonds distribution and positioning is on another level at the moment. Its has nothing to do with Eastmond being English.
Btw Coquelin reminds me of a young version of Hargreaves when he broke through at Bayern.
Simply don’t agree.
Coquelin reminds me of an all action Centermid. Not saying he will be as good as Essein because who is, but he reminds me of him.
Just read an article that says Barcelona have bid 30 million euros for Eden Hazard. FUCK!!! There goes any chance of anyone catching up to them. They will now have 2 of the top 3 young wide attacking players on each side. If this goes through, defending Barcelona will now be vertually impossible. To make it worse, Barcelona is the only team that I believed would be able to compete with our crop of young stars in 2 or 3 years time. With them adding Hazard, I just feel it will be almost impossible to compete, god forbid they do get Fabregas from us.
I feel Hazard could be the signing that changes the next 10 years of football and yes 1 payer here or there can do that. In 2003 Ronaldinho signed for Barcelona. The year before Barcelona were 6th place and the 2 years before that they were 4th. The signing of Ronaldinho is the reason why Barcelona are now sitting on top of the world. I just feel Eden Hazard locks up Barcelona’s position on top for the nexts 6 years and like I said god forbid they do get Fabregas.
hazard is all hype…he’s a trickster, that’s all. nothing special.
cesc is gone and I dont care!! It seems Arsenal is a sinking ship as long Wenger stays in charge!!!
I am not sure how you can blame Wenger for Cesc going to Barca he has said he wants to keep him and if Cesc wants to go then why is it wengers fault
As for Hazard when a player says I want to play for either real or Arsenal and barca are interested then 99% of the time its just paper talk
I am not sure if arsenal is a sinking ship but yeah the future looks more unclear then it looked a season ago. If Cesc stays and we spend thenwe have a fantastic chance of winning a trophy if he leaves then we are in trouble because his skills can be replaced it will be his leadership and his image as everything good about arsenal that will be missed
Wenger is simply to blame for his transfers!!! Not buying a striker in jan and a decent GK cost us the title!!! So he is to blame no one else!!!
Arsenal4ever- Wenger is the only thing that keeps Arsenal from falling like Liverpool. Not going to get in another arguement about this subject though.
Andrew, for one it is one thing for a player to say he prefers a club but it is another thing on which club forks out the money to buy him.
On the Cesc thing, it wouldnt be as much, that he is leaving but more that he would be joining Barcelona who are already the top club in the world and if they add the best young centermidfielder and the best teenage winger who is the new Ronaldo/Messi…….that is not good for the rest of football considering most of their players have yet to even hit their prime.
shand admit it Wenger is shit!! He just sells every star each year!!! We need new blood especially in management. He was great but he lost it, fact!!!
You do realize we have had to pay off a loan that we used to build our new stadium right? You do realize Wenger has kept our team in the champions league every year despite working on one of the smallest budgets in the prem league while making a profit to pay of that loan? You do realize how incredible that is and he is probally the only manager in the world that could do that? You do realize that we are in a league with 2 multi-billinaire owners and Manchester united and liverpool? These are questions you can answer for yourself.
so now you are certain he will buy the required players? I hope I am wrong but I think we will on ly see Chamakh and a 1 or 2 CB`s and if Cesc leaves we will get Arteta, tahts it!! But we need a proper winger, goalscorer, DM etc. So I would say 4-5 players we still need to compete!!!
We are a self sufficient club so no we will not being spending 50 million pounds on a player anytime soon. We are also still paying on the loan. I think Wenger will sign centerbacks (number depends on if gallas leaves, and a keeper along with Chamahk. I personally think we need a top talent winger who can take players on, link up and score goals but I dont think that will happen. If you look at this year, if van Persie did not get injured (which i know he always does) we would have won the league. Also then Bendtner gets hurt an Arshavin has to play striker which is why we signed Chamahk. Then we still could have won if Fabregas didnt get hurt in the barca game. Relly if we just sign a good centerback or 2 and a quality keeper, we can win the league next year.
mate admit it we need to replace Cesc!!! He is sick of our way in transfer and not winning trophies. Barca is saying they will contact Wenger about him!!
Aggainst stoke for example coquelin´s passing was belove average imo.
Agree about hazard damn barca are going to look unbeatable for us. Aggainst teams like chelsea or inter they seem to struggle though.
He had a bad game lol. That happens sometimes mate.
That is because Chelsea and Inter just play all defence verse them. That is the scary thing tho, you add Hazard on the other side and if cesc joined, I dont see how you could keep them from scoring for 90 minutes. I would be will to bet that they will be the first team ever to win every game in their league campain.
Better than Wallcot?
how about his missplaced passes in his few minutes aggainst liverpool. He didnt perform pretty well aggainst west brom either. I dont think he is ready at the momment. Eastmond seems to be more mature.
I doubt any team could win every league game.
I am talking about potential. Neither of the are ready to be first teamers.
Watch and see. If they sign Hazard and Fabregas, I think they could be the best team ever. Ibrahimovic doesnt really fit though. Still a great player but he isnt made for playing fast pace and having his back to the goal so often.
Hard to say imo. A Flamini/Hargreaves type youth player will always look flashier than a Makelele type. If Coquelin improves his positioning he can definetly become worldclass otherwise he will have to settle for a rb position.
Possibly the best team ever i agree also on Ibrahimovic. But if you take out toure and ibrahimovic for example an replace them with villa/hazard and Fabregas they will be physically weaker an shorter and could possibly struggle like us aggainst stronger/tougher oponnents.
Size meens absolutely nothing to a team that has the ball almost the entire game and have the quality they do. The ways Chelsea and intermilan did ok at holding of there attack was simply they just defended and focussed on Messi. Now you will have a Messi type on the other side and Fabregas who is a better scorer than the centermids they have. Now how do you stop them? The will be have the best players in every attacking position.
http://www.thebluearmy.co.uk/news/Teenage-prospect-Joe-Jones-signs-Leicester-City/article-2171104-detail/article.html
You know shane sometimes i wonder how cesc would perform for Barca as he seemed to stuggle aggainst top teams this year for us because he is the player we look for but at barca other teams wouldnt be able to double up on him like they do aggainst us and he could be one very lethal player for them then.
So possibly you are right.
there are two team in spain that threathen for anything and its been the case every year for I dont know how long
Wenger was right that if you want to prove yourself as a great player then England is the best league any team can lose to any team e.g united to burnley but in Spain I think Barca lost 1 game in the entire season and the difference was 20-30 points
Fabregas I think will either play in defensive role in Barca first team or on the bench both dont suit him and REALLY I dont see him leaving one he has a lot of growing up to do as a player second Barca already have two great midfielders in Xavi and Iniesta
Xavi is 30 right now and after two-three more years he wont be able to play regularly and then Fab will take his place and Ramsey cant take his place win win in my view we make money they get fab and fab gets barca
WHAT FABREGAS IS LOOKING FOR IS TITLES WITH ARSENAL AND ALL HE WANTS FROM WENGER IS TO SPEND AND WENGER WILL PROBABLY DISCUSS WHO HE’S GOING TO ADD THIS SUMMER AND WHAT HIS FUTURE PLAN IS THAT WHAT’S THE MEETING IS ABOUT
MEDIA IS PLAYING ITS USUAL BULLSHIT
Shane your a fucking idiot. We’re supposed to pay our 350mill£ loan back over 20years. So why are we paying 120million of it back in one year? Why would we cut our loan by a 1/3 in one year when we have absolutly no need to, everything was in place we had a full proof finacial system in place to pay it back.
I ask why we didnt spend half of that on players? Makes no sense at all. Do the arsenal board not realise that there is middle ground available. It dosnt have to be pay our loan back and buy nobody. We can do both in equal measures. Also some people on here need to realise that liverpool sppent 250mill on transfers and were run by two twats without a clue. Spending 30mill at least this summer is not going to financialy cripple us, it will mean jack shit in the long run of this club.
its good that more is being payed off now as it is inevitable that intrest rates will increase in the next few years
I am pretty sure you are the stupid one. We took out a loan of 260 million pounds which was then spread out through bonds. You have to pay intrest on these which is why Arsenal are paying them of faster. We have made alot of progress through selling players at a higher value than what he is worth. Fuck it, I am not explaining this again. You are probally right. You know more about business and financing than the entire Arsenal board and Arsene Wenger.
So why are we paying 120million of it back in one year?
Those were the terms of the loan mate. Everything relating to highbury flats has to be paid off by December 2010 to avoid huge penalties financially. We’ve already extended the term of loan once. Now any money left from sales is straight into the clubs bank and we decide exactly what we want to do with it.
So when January comes there will be plenty in the kitty too
your telling me in our 20year plan, we have to pay a 1/3of it in one year? What idiot arranged that.
hopefully he will not be a new Vela…hyped so much until people now wnats him sent out on loan.
Vela was sent on loan so he could gain a spanish passport so he could play in england.
arsenal has been proven to make players play well for them but when they move on they do rubbish. e.g henry, hleb, flamini, viera
Well I’m too tired of defending Eastmond on here, so i’m not going to. There is a rumour that Ibrahimovic could be headed our way in the Fabregas deal , along with Toure. I don’t really want this deal to happen, and i don’t really know how Ibrahimovic would fit into our system if he couldn’t fit into Barca’s system.
van Persie plays with the same sort of style and pace as Ibrahimovic so it could work , i just cant see us paying his wages. Really doubt this move happens.
Chuks Aneke not even on the bench for England U17. wtf?
think he could be injured, thats only reason it can be
Dosnt surprise me at all.
Czechs are winning 1-0 early. Bet you guys weren’t expecting that!!:S lol. I’m from Canada so I can’t very well say we hahaha.
number 15, think its McEcrken looks really good. Plays for Chelsea. Looks like a young jack wilshere
Agree. He was the star of the FAYC winning Chelsea team this season. He looks like the best player on the pitch so far.
McEachran has had some really good touches and passes like you guys said. I was wondering who the guy was until I looked up the squad on uefa.com. The only players I knew were Keane, Wickham, Afobe and Aneke. Aneke is injured now?? That sucks. I love watching him play. No one else plays like he does as far as I can tell in this England squad.
The commantator said the only absence was the suspended Conor Coady.
Afobe has had a few “almost came off moments” He looks very fustrated. It’s still early on yet though, and I hope he scores!!
honest to good i swear i could do a better job then the coaches at england youth level. I actually think they are the most clueless twats ever.
So is Chucks just been left out for no reason other than the coaches think he isn’t good enough?? With the conditions like they are, he would be ideal out there because of his technical capabilities. The pitch is probably hard to run and dribble on because it is so wet. But that wouldn’t stop CHuckes, I don’t think!! lol. Yup the coaches are stupid, but that’s the case when it comes to youth in the arts as well. Trust me I used to play the viola and I only made my national youth orchestra and city orchestra on the 2nd or 3rd attempt. And I knew i was better than a few of the players who did make it. This type of thing happens everywhere. It’s too fucking obvious to pick the best players, so they pick the foot soldiers instead of the truly talented players. And then when they lose, or it doesn’t sound good they MIGHT learn. Usually they never do.
Afobe has been pants. So has wickham hes been disappointing.
Afobe doesnt havent a clue sorry i cant see him being an Arsenal player. He hasnt got the all round game
are you sure you are watching the right match
John you’re an idiot. He was involved in the build-up to the 2nd goal, he’s had some good runs on the ball, and I don’t know who scored the 3rd goal. Really I missed it cuz I had to take a piss. Who scored it??
Lol it was Afobe, decent strike but took slight deflection. Afobe looked ok when he went on the left for a bit, still needs to improve that side of his game.
And I think Chuks must be injured, he featured in nearly all the qualifiers so don’t see any reason why he’d be left out. Wickham has been slightly dissapointing.
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Oh!!!!!!! Loks like you were the one taking the piss John. I’m not even going to say who scored the 3rd goal. One clue…it wasn’t Conor Wickham.
MIlo yh he scored a deflection but he hasnt had a good all round game.
I remeber seeing henri lansbury, rhys murphy.
Rhys Muprhy had alot more to his game than Benik afobe at 17 .
Looking foward to seeing chuks aneke unlucky hes injured
Of course afobe can still improve but John is just ridiculous saying he has no link-up play [he definately does but it still needs improving]. Just ignore John everyone.
I think we all know John doesn’t like Afobe.
Benik afobe isnt a link up player. Hes one of these players who likes the ball over the top or in space to run into and finish.
He really is like a young Darren Bent.
Afobe can do it all. He can link up the play, like he did for England’s second goal tonight and finish, like he did for the third. He’s excellent, a striker who makes and scores a lot of goals.
J any news on Galindo nd wat happened to Yaya Sanogo saw him today nd his positioning nd first touch looks really good nd hes already playin for Auxerre 1st team
JS i hope ur right mate. Cause to be honest i havent been impressed with afobe despite scoring goals hopefully he improves his link up play and overall game but i cant see it
I don’t know what more he needs to do, John. Even if you take the last two games, which were on TV. He’s scored four goals in two games, basically made the second goal today with his link up play, and against Nottingham he won the penalty for Freeman and then burst down the wing and squared for Freeman to tap in for his second. He can’t do much more mate, he’s on fire at the moment.
John- how old is Afobe? You expect the finished article at 17 years old.
very good