Nacer Barazite is set to meet with Arsène Wenger when Arsenal return to pre-season training. The Dutchman is seeking reassurances over his future after completing the season in the Reserves following shoulder surgery.
Barazite returned from a season long loan with Derby County 12 months ago, with the expectation that he would kick on into the first team. His usual star performance and goal against Barnet in pre-season appeared to signal the start of his first-team career, but he failed to make the squad for the annual training camp in Austria. However, he did complete 20 minutes in the Carling Cup victory over West Brom before injuring his shoulder playing for Holland’s Under 21’s.
The 20-year-old opted for advanced surgery on his shoulder, after missing large spells of action with previous dislocations. It ruled him out for three months, but the maturity Nacer showed to take the decision based on long term benefits earned him in house praise.
A second loan spell is potentially on the cards, with murmurs that UD Salamanca are preparing to launch a bid to bring the winger to Spain. Yet ‘Naz’ is keen to find out what role he plays in the long term future. In July he will still have two years left on his contract and with injury problems now firmly behind him, the Dutchman enters a key stage of his career.
Barazite is in a similar position to that of Håvard Nordtveit, with both set to be assessed in pre-season as to whether they can make the grade or if further education needed on loan is needed. Nordtveit indicated a short term switch to a Premier League club would be ideal, and Nacer would also favour this.
The talented flyer has a huge reputation in Europe and should Wenger and player both decide to part company, a large number of potential suitors would be keen to take him on.
I’d really like to see Nacer stay on with Arsenal. It might take one more loan spell to further his development, but he’s a player I hope Arsenal don’t let slip away.
I agree . What is the point playing him in reserve games or meaningless cup games. In these games even the greatest players will not play their best. I say promote him to the bench in some games like we did with wilshere and loan him out in january to a newly promoted club. If barazite was english there would be so much more hype.
Anyway only a small minority of players (less than 5% of all players) are good enough to play in a top sides’s first team reguarly at 20 years old. Most players hit that level at around 23-24.
Agreed, but i am not a fan of players demanding something that they haven’t earnt or put into action. If he can battle thru competition then he will be a better player for it.
a full year on loan will prob be best at this current time
A decent adult reserve league would enable all of these fringe players to develop against adult players. The reserve team is little more than a youth development programme.
If we loan him out again, he won’t resign and leave on a free like Fran. Problem is, he’s not good enough to play in the first team so I think we just need to cash in because otherwise he WILL leave on a free.
Does he have a position in our new formation? He’s certainly not a winger, nor is he a CM.
we dont have a new formation and he can do a great job on the wings
If Nacer can be loaned to a PL club then great
I think Nacer has a bright future in the game I am still not sure why Wenger hasnt brought him into the first team, HE has everything needed to a be top class winger maybe a year on loan to a PL club will do good him good
but we can use a winger like him in our ranks he can play both sides and lets bring him into first team and give him chance in the FA and carling cups and maybe an odd PL game aswell.
HE will be happy to train with the first team and learn from them and get playing time
with them
But wenger will decide and he usually gets it right so I am going to trust him
I think Norvedit is lucky we only have two defenders left and one on the way we are in desperate need of defenders and Norvedit will have to come in.
HE has the necessary experience needed to come into the first team
I really can’t see him making it at Arsenal. There are just to many players ahead of him
Oh really, i assume you are privy to Arsenals player rankings.
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J any idea when Norvedit contract expires some say it might be expiring in 2010
and people who dont think Barazite will make it can you explain why?
Its spelled “Nordtveit” and he signed a 4 year contract in june 2 007 so his contract expires june 2011.
I just don’t see him as effective on the right as Walcott, Eboue, Nasri, Rosicky or even Bendtner when he has played there. Thats not to mention Wishere and Lansbury who i thing are ahead in the pecking order and can play there
Barazite is not a striker he’s a winger or a AM player like Nasri, Arshavin and so on
Barazite is young and mature he knows he cant become a regular right now but what about playing in the FA and carling cup and training with the first team
having his name in the first team page will also be a boost for him we have traore in the first team but how much does he play? not a lot
we can use him in the wings or even in the middle in carling and fa cups with him either playing in the middle or on the left wing
I think we know have a squad assembled for squad rotation something SAF has done quite a lot and it has paid dividents
d tale Nacer over walcott. Nacer has strenght, presence, passing, and greating shooting, things that walcott can not do, he only hs pace. so he could fit in quite well, kinda like B52 on the wings. A strong target man back players can look for with a long ball
I believe Barazite can make it. Wenger needs to give him the same playing time as he did with Walcott, Denilson, Bendtner and etc.
Barazite’s trickery is far superior to Walcott’s and versatility is a welcome bonus to the squad. I hope he impresses in pre-season and makes the first team.
Sound ’em both to Blackpool. Holloway doesn’t want to buy overpriced wasters so I’m sure he’d love talented Arsenal youngsters to play reguarly.
Agreed, JET, Nordveit and Barazite. Get Wilshere, Bartley and Lansbury in other top flight clubs where they will play, and then lets see finally whats what.
At the very least they’ll be in the shop window and their fees should go up due to premier league experience.
Thankfully for us, the demand for our players will be high given current financial constraints of clubs.
I think Barazite is going to make it I dont see any reason why he shouldnt I think he proved that he just too good for the reserves so wenger will have an easy decision on his hand send him or loan or bring him into the first team or sell him
He can play left wing, right wing in the middle and upfront
I think he’s the best on the wings and if he does make it then that’s where it will be
LW – Arshavin, Nasri, Barazite
RW – Walcott, Rosciky Eboue, Nasri, Barazite
playing him in the cup game on the left wont be a bad idea it will give our players a breather and he can have his games in the first team
i always thought rosicky played on the left wing, were he cuts in off the flank
he can play both same as Nasri
I would like to see him on loan at a premier league team. I think that would be extremely beneficial to all parties
I dont understand why does Norvedit have to go on loan ?
he’s been on loan for 2 and half years what he needs know in my view is to be brought into the first team slowly and with us losing 4 CB we can certainly use him
HE can also play DM role he has plenty of experience doing that in Germany so a good cover for Song.
I am sure Norvedit will be part of Arsenal first team football next year
fair point Andrew. depends on pre-season assessments.
JS is Nacer barazite fast enough to play wide? Does he have the stamina? Cause when u play wide you have to make run after run plus tracking back helping your full back. Its a tiring job if you aint no good.
Thats why i feels orry for theo walcott when he plays wide and running at the pace he does throughout 90 mins it must be hard to get the final ball right
very good point, never thought of that before. Stamina is key for our 11 witht his formation because there is a lot of need to for the wingers and even the striker to drop back on the counter and help defend
this is why 4-4-2 is better defensively
So you’re saying that you need to have stamina and track back when playing on the wings? I believe Arshavin would beg to differ.
Interesting post. I hope Arsene takes his usual pragmatic approach. He has potentially four young midfielders with decisions to be made. Barazite, Emmanuel-Thomas, Wilshere and Lansbury all could potentially leave for top level loan experience, or could remain as part of the first team squad. The difficulty is that these lads may be hindered by hanging around till Christmas for the odd Carling Cup run out. I feel two of the above four should go out on loan to a Premiership club and that the other two should be moved firmly into first-team contention. By that I mean they should be entrusted with Premiership football if the players ahead are not performing.
Would be nice to trust this pool of youngsters. I am hoping for more than Carling Cup run outs.
i think with chamakh coming in and providing the strength to hold a high line, there will be space for wingers in the team. definitely more so than this past year. i think we’ll see more 442’s and 451’s this year than 433s. so good news for walcott, vela, barazite.
barazite’s probably my favourite young player, very classy mover.
I don’t really see any distinctive quality in his game that’ll make me say “he’s definitely going to make it”, but he should be o.k. if he continues to work hard, just like Cashley did.
he looks like an arsenal player to me
he’s technically gifted
he knows how to play one touch football
he’s comfortable with ball in his feet
he got trickery within him
he likes to play the passing game
and he has a bit extra
he knows how to striker from distance
he also has an impressive height
I think Barazite will either go on loan or sold I dont see him being kept in the reserve I think he has shown in game after game he’s too good for the reserves
I think most fans want him to succeed but we just see him in odd reserve games we dont see him train week in and week out only Wenger can really judge how good he really is and can he step uo the levels of Van persie, Arshavin and so on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NYkQe9qfYw
barazite against Barnet
gk-schwarczer,fabianski,mannone
cb-vermaelen,koscielny,djourou,nortveit,campbell
rb-van der wiel,eboue
lb-clichy,gibbs,traore
dm-song,eastmond,coquelin
cm-diaby,denilson,ramsey,emmanuel-thomas
am-fabregas,nasri,wilshere,lansbury
wf-walcott,cole,vela,arshavin,barazite
cf-van persie,chamakh,bendtner
sell the others…
next year 1st team squad..
haha..
What formation are you going with?
GK – Schwarzer, Almunia, Mannone (Fabianski, Wojieich on loan)
LB – Clichy, Gibbs, Traore, Vermaelen, Koscielny
RB – Sagna, Eboue, Djoruou, koscielny
CB – Koscielny, Djourou, Vermaelen, Nortvedit, Song and Sol if he stays
CM – Denilson, Song, Diaby
ACM – Fabregas, Nasri, Cole
LM/LW – Arshavin, Nasri, Barazite, Cole
RM/RW – Cole, Walcott, Eboue, Nasri, Rosciky (might be sold if Cole comes)
Second Striker – Vela, Van Persie, Cole, Eduardo(might be sold if Cole comes)
Target Man – Chamak, Bendtner, Van Persie
I don’t expect Fab to be sold and as you can guess I think we will play 4-4-2
We are not going to lose any more defenders we might lose 4 on Free
If Cole comes then either Rosicky or Eduardo might be sol
i like the team but would let denielson go on loan and get melo in also get a experienced cb that would be kjaer….
sell traore, eddy and rosicky….. get cole, schwarzer, melo, laurent Koscielny and kjaer.
send Fabianski, Wojieich,Barazite, wishare, Denilson, Nortvedit on loan to premier league sides
emmanuel-thomas and bartley to championship sides
get M. Diarra on loan for one season.
GK – Schwarzer, Almunia, Mannone
LB – Clichy, Gibbs
RB – Sagna, Eboue
CB – Koscielny, Djourou, Vermaelen,kjaer
CM – Melo, Song, Diaby, M.diarra, lansbury, ramsay
ACM – Fabregas, Nasri, Cole
LM/LW – Arshavin, vela (he can play very well in that position in a 433)
RM/RW – Cole, Walcott, nikki b, nasri
Target Man/ striker – Chamak, Bendtner, Van Persie
probably vela and Barazite can take over from arshavin…
Denilson, Nortvedit can replaced M. Diarra after a season on loan.
BARAZITE IS A TOP STRIKER, NOT A WINGER. OBVIOUSLY WENGER DOES NOT HAVE FAITH IN HIM. I THINK HE WOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE STRIKERS IN THE WORLD, IF INJURIES LET HIM. BUT NOT IN ARSENAL, CUZ WENGER IS TOO SENILE TO SEE THUS.
BARAZITE may become one of the top strikers…. but at the moment he isnt one…. sending him on loan to a premier league side would be the best thing for him …. as he will get an oppourtunity to imprewss wenger with his performences…. dont u think so???????????
Terry, Melo is garbage. Denilson will become better than him no question. Alright Melo isn’t garbage, but Denilson is already twice as good as him technically. All Denilson needs to do is maybe bulk up, but most importantly stay injury free this season. Barazite will just have to show what he can do in the pre-season. I pray that he just gets a chance from Wenger. It’s only pre-season and I think he can make it at Arsenal if he is given the chance.
we have a great reputation of bring young players through but are we now beginning to see a situation where we have so many talented young players that some of them are not deveoping as quickly as they might? our first team is already quite young… our youth players are so talented that i’m sure many of them would get game time at lower premier league sides or champion ship teams. maybe their development is stalling with us?
Kjaer probably is the most expirienced 21 YEAR OLD center-back Terry :D
milo your still talking shit,please stop.
I cant believe people are asking for Rosicky to be sold. When fit, and i mean match fitness wise aswell, he is better than Joe Cole
i dont mind fabregas leave actually..a team exist is not for a player,a player exist is for a team..if fabregas leave,we can just replace him with another young player from our youth project like lansbury,wilshere or emmanuel-thomas..in my 1st squad list,szczesny can replace schwarczer,bartley can replace campbell,fabregas can just leave as we had many young players can replace him,if arshavin want to leave we can sign either gourcuff or van der waat..in this world,there’s no such thing that one may nid someone to survive..we can train another fabregas by ourselves..i like arsenal is becoz the style they are playing,not fabregas..i dont quite like that last season they depends on fabregas too much,football is a team game,not 1 man show..
gk-schwarczer(szczesny),fabianski,mannone
cb-vermaelen,koscielny,djourou,campbell(bartley),nortveit
rb-van der wiel,eboue,coquelin
lb-clichy,gibbs,traore
dm-song,eastmond,emmanuel-thomas
cm-diaby,denilson,ramsey
am-nasri,wilshere,lansbury
wf-arshavin(gourcuff/van der waat;switch position with nasri if either come),cole,walcott,vela,barazite
cf-van persie,chamakh,bendtner
players out-almunia,gallas,senderos,silvestre,sagna,fabregas,merida,rosicky,eduardo
these players should leave as they are affecting the development of other young players,such as eduardo,rosicky,almunia,etc..
the positions of players may switch,such as traore as wf,coquelin as dm,bendtner as wf,etc..
arsenal will win next season..
haha..
let van persie be the team captain,clichy and vermaelen be the vice captain using the 4-3-3 formation..
few players should go on ;oan to a primier league side like newcastle,blackpool,wba,etc
szczesny,bartley(depends on the contract extension of sol campbell),coquelin(on loaned to lorient),eastmond,emmanuel-thomas,barazite.. maybe traore & vela..
Barazite is a first class player whose development has been hampered by injury. What he needs is a healthy season more than anything else.
With the current Arsenal squad packed with offensive personnel, this season he’s going to find it tough to break through. I’m sure he doesn’t want to go out on loan again, but a spell in the PL with someone the likes of Blackpool or Wigan, or even a club in the Championship might well provide him with his turning point.
He needs time on the ball in order to impress and I’m not sure the Reserves and Carling Cup are going to provide it.
But what Nacer also needs to understand is that breaking into the Arsenal side as a front man is more difficult than being a first choice for one’s country (Vela/Mexico, Bendtner/Denmark, Eduardo/Croatia … ) If he wants to succeed as a striker then he has to prove it with a better than average goal-scoring record. For strikers it’s all about converting chances … nothing else matters.
Has any PL team asked to take him on loan?
I know we all want him to go on loan to a PL side but a side should want to take him on loan we can just say he should go on loan to a PL side if no side wants him
I always thought due to his height he shouldve been played as a CF. He is very much in the mould of RVP when you think about it. Not the quickest (but certainly not slow) but has extremely good technique. I think the biggest downfall was going to Derby where they constantly played him on the right wing. The injuries certainly didn’t help (Walcott can attest to shoulders stunting development).
I just don’t see him breaking into our team on the wings if Wilshere can’t even do so and now that we’ve got Chamakh and he hasn’t been playing CF I don’t see him getting in there either. I think he’ll go on to have a pretty good career but I doubt it will be in the EPL. His game is prolly best suited to Serie A where he’ll be quicker than most but still a very technical league.
I always saw Barazite as a winger and he has been used as a winger in the reserves where he has done an incredible job.
He can also play as a target man or a second striker but he’s more of a winger for me than a striker
I hope Barazite makes it. I don’t know much about him but from what little i’ve seen I like. However space in the squad is at a premium.
P.S. Can anyone tell me whats happening with the Brazilian LB we had out on loan. Pedro.. How has he been developing. Is he expected to be in the first team next season?
no he will be either be sold or released
Barazite was good but if he wants to break through as a striker hes got to be better than bendtner.
Bendtner was killing reserve teams at 16 with pace, power, skill, dribbling ability, brilliant vision i havent seen another player whos made an impact in every nearly every game
Barazite showes his quality in flashes he doesnt do it for 60-70 mins. He has a good 15min spell than goes quiet.
Naz isn’t good enough for our 1st team he’s nowhere near it. Sell him for a few mil
Big fan of Nacer, hope he makes it with us. Should go to Austria with team to show what he can do and then hopefully take Merida’s place in the 1st team squad.
arsenal should sign ayew. he has amazing dribbling and footwork and has been really good for ghana at this world cup. its just unfortunate that he is suspended for the quater finals. he would be a good signing, young, quite cheap and is a good left winger which in my opinion arsenal needs
if you want a left winger from OM buy Ben Arfa not Ayeu.
Ben Arfa need the right coach to get him on the next level.He is the most talented french player right now but he need guidance by a top coach who believe in him (a Ferguson or Wenger style coach).
gareth barry is the most overrated player in the world. he is rubbish, he would not even get in honduras’ team.
hes ok
I think England should have gone with one upfront and should have played Cole from that start
Still its time to pick ourselves next world cup will be full of arsenal players
Gibbs – LB
Wilshere – CM
RW – Walcott
and maybe even Bartley in their aswell if he keeps progressing like he has been
yeah, england really needs to build for the future. the thing is that, klose and podolski have never really done great at club level but they have always performed well for the national team where as lampard has consistently played bad for country so he should have been dropped.
Dan, what is your problem with me?? Why do you keep insulting me?? These are only my opinions, and I truly feel that Denilson can improve and become a crucial member of the Arsenal setup. If he doesn’t, then I’m wrong. Who cares?? I also feel that Rosicky is valuable as well and should not be sold. Obviously that is also just my opinion. If you don’t agree then that’s fine. But don’t insult other people based on their opinions. If you don’t stop, I’m going to have to ask you to go fuck yourself again, like I did the last time you insulted me.
haha,
you should have said “i’m afraid i am going to have to ask you to go fuck yourself”
Hatem Ben Arfa has serious problem with authority. If we were to buy him, within a year we would get a new Adebayor a lzy prima donna who think he is better than he is really is. Nasri and ben Arfa are best of friend, but I can assure you that Diaby and Ben Arfa are not. Go a google Ben Arfa Diaby Clairefontaine youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqof0zIDMWs&hl=en
With a season without injury Barazite can become one of the best winger in the premiership.
When fit Rosicky is a very good player, however let’s be honest Rosicky is unlikely to be fit for more than a thirs of the season. With Eduardo on its way to Lyon and some senior players unavailable at the beginning of the season because of the World Cup that could mean an opportunity for youngsters.
Nacer barazite has the talent he needs to be consistent over a game then over the season. The lacklustre success at Derby may mean more on the quality of the coach there than about the quality of Barazite. The few game that I swa he was the game changer. Remember Kieran Gibbs did not have a very bgood lan at Norwich.
so was Van Persie,some learn some dont but has great talent.Pires left Marseille in same condition and turn out great.
vela can become a great player but playing him on the wings is just wasting his talent he needs to play off a target man
What formation are we going to play next year? this question is driving me mad
will we go back to 4-4-2 or keep 4-4-3 or play 4-2-3-1 this question is driving me mad
4-4-2 as England proved is outdated in europe
with 4-4-3 how do we accomodate 5 striker 2 of them cant even play in that formation and this formation is defensively a disaster
4-2-3-1 is a better form of 4-4-3 and works better defensively and offensively but again how do you accomodate 5 strikers
Its pretty ironic last year we had too few strikers now it looks like we have too man
I vote for the 4-4-3. If we don’t win the league with this formation, we probably don’t have much of a chance with a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, haha. Joking aside, I am also very curious to see how Arsene plans to deploy this group next year.
ozil, mueller, kedhira and schweinsteiger. 2 of them we should buy!!!!! who ever knew we would get arshavin after the euros????
not gonna happen
Ozil is way in our reach as he have only 1 year left.even of he has a great world cup,he will cost 15-20 M at most.
good point lordgunner but mueller and schweinsteiger wont be sold from bayern!! even if cesc stays ozil would be great!!
4-4-2
Gk – Schwarzer, Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone
LB – Clichy, Gibbs, Traore
RB – Eboue, Sagna
CB – Vermaelen, Djourou, Koscielny, Sol, Norvedit, Song
CM – Song, Diaby, Denilson
ACM – Fabregas, Nasri, Rosicky
RM – Walcott, Nasri, Eboue, Rosicky,
LM – Arshavin, Nasri
S ST – Eduardo, Vela, Van Persie
ST – Chamak, Bendtner, Van Persie
4-4-2
Schwarzer
Sagna —– Koscielny—– Vermaelen —- Clichy
Nasri —— Fabregas ——– Diaby —— Arshavin
Chamak —— Van Persie
4-4-3
Gk – Schwarzer, Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone
LB – Clichy, Gibbs, Traore
RB – Eboue, Sagna
CB – Vermaelen, Djourou, Koscielny, Sol, Norvedit, Song
DM – Song, Denilson, Norvedit
CM – Denilson, Diaby
ACM – Fabregas, Nasri, Rosicky
RW – Walcott, Rosicky, Nasri, Van Persie, Bendtner
LW – Arshavin, Nasri, Vela, Eduardo
ST – Chamak, Bendtner, and Van Persie
4-4-3
Schwarzer
Sagna —– Koscielny—– Vermaelen —- Clichy
Song
Fabregas —— Diaby
Van Persie ———- Chamak ———— Arshavin
4-2-3-1
Gk – Schwarzer, Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone
LB – Clichy, Gibbs, Traore
RB – Eboue, Sagna
CB – Vermaelen, Djourou, Koscielny, Sol, Norvedit, Song
DM – Song, Diaby, Denilson, Norvedit
2 DM – Diaby, Denilson, Song
AM – Fabregas, Nasri, Rosicky
RW – Walcott, Bendtner, Nasri, Rosicky, Van Persie
LW – Arshavin, Nasri, Vela, Eduardo
ST – Chamak, Bendtner, Van Persie
4-2-3-1
Schwarzer
Sagna —– Koscielny—– Vermaelen —- Clichy
Song —— Diaby
Van Persie ——– Fabregas ———– Arshavin
Chamak
which formation looks better
I think I will more likely prefer 4-2-3-1
much more defensively stable and a good offenisve lineup aswell
but can van persie play on the right he did such an incredible job as a target man will be happy to play on right?
What I do know is that we have plenty of backup
4-2-3-1 is Netherlands formation right? and Van Persie is playing as the target man.
I think 4-2-3-1 is the best formation for us going forward its like 4-3-3 but a bit more defensive and when attack it also has the killer thrust. I hope Van Persie can be happy playing on the right he can always inter change like our wingers in 4-3-3.
I will be very happy if we adopted this lineup next season and finally we have plenty of backup maybe another DM player wont be such a bad idea
I hope we get lucky next season with Injuries and we can finally rotate our players.
Van Persie = Walcott
Arshavin = Vela, Rosicky
Fabregas = Nasri
Chamak = Bendtner
Diaby = Denilson
Song = Norvedit
Clichy = Gibbs
Sagna = Eboue
Schwarzer = No one
I do not want to lose the services of Alex Song. If he can prove that he is effective within a 4-4-2 formation then fine. But I think he is at his best within the 4-3-3 formation. Instead of him being inflexible or unversatile, I view him as a very unique and accomplished talent. No one else in our squad can do what he does at the level that he has displayed. Why change?? We might, but if we do I really hope that Song can adjust. I have always been a massive fan of his. Even back before he made the full-time transition to midfield. We only have one Song.
with 4-2-3-1 only Van Persie has to change his place going from central to the right
all else stays the same and that’s why I prefer this formation over 4-3-3
in 4-3-3 our flanks are too exposed and everything is concenrtated through the middle.
how good 4-2-3-1 is being shown right now by netherlands who have only let in one goal even that was through a penalty and we have better DM than them
I count 4-2-3-1 as a variation of 4-3-3. We basically played a 4-2-1-3 or 4-2-3-1 last year. It was very flexible. The Netherlands have frankly been pretty boring during this World Cup. If you want us to play like them, then I guess that’s alright. I’d prefer 4-3-3. That way you can be flexible and play 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-3 or 4-2-1-3 if you need to. Calling it 4-3-3 just simplifies having to spell out all the variations of the formation.
barazite is unfortunate in that by the time he recovered, it was really too late for another team to take a puno on taking him on loan.
i hope he can make the break through in the first team. if he spends another season on loan, the likes of wilshire, lansbury and watt will certainly cement their first team credentials ahead of Nacer. Hopefully a good pre-season and Austria camp will help him feature in the Emirates cup and see him push on further
JS what happened to Carl parisio? Where is he now? Did injury problems affect his arsenal career or was he not good enough?
Vincent van der berg looked a good player but he was dogged with injuries shame a real shame
never heard of him but here is the link:
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/carl-parisio/profil/spieler_44798.html
Andrew – There’s no way we have better DM’s than De Jong and Van Bommel. I think Alex Song will be the best in that position in a couple of years but he’s a tad clumsy and positionally suspect at times. He is one of the majors cogs of the new Arsenal we will become accustomed to some time soon and the team will be built around him, Vermaelen and RVP but Van Bommel has been Holland’s best player at this WC thus far. His work goes unnoticed because he’s unspectacular but he’s easily the best DM at this moment in time. He orchestrates his team-mates, allows Gio and VDWiel to get forward, instigates attacks with his very clever decisions on the pitch and accurate passing (i can’t remember him giving a misplaced pass so far), has the necessary experience to break up opposition attacks (unfairly if need be) whenever his less experienced team-mates get found wanting or winning back possession with a great tackle. Holland look comfortable with him there. If he missed a game, only then will people realise just how important he has been to them.
Oh, and let me also add that you guys that keep saying the 4-3-3 is defensively suspect whenever Arsenal play it so we shouldn’t use it have it wrong. The 4-3-3 is quite solid if you have players with the correct attitude. There are too many players in our current squad who couldn’t care less about our club…….and it shows! Wenger has failed in instilling a work ethic in this team. That’s all they lack. I can’t stand these lacklustre guys who don’t put it in for the cause.
We have easily got more ballers than teams like Man United, Liverpool, the Spuds and Everton, but their managers get them fired up for games and make sure they run their hearts out for the team. AW doesn’t get them into this mind-set. He has quite poor motivational qualities, hence the reason we fail so miserably in the big games. I love his philosophy on how the game should be played. I mirror that philosophy but these guys have to improve their work-rate. If they all had Vermaelen’s hunger for the cause then we would clean up. That’s why those wankers Barcelona are so good. Guardiola has made them hate not having possession, so when they lose it, they fight like rabid dogs to win it back. We have to follow suit and if people like Diaby and Arshavin wanna lumber around then they shouldn’t have the honour of representing our great club.
im being totally objective when im saying this… u’ve got a classic case of “the grass is greener on the other side”.. its not motivation i see thats lacking.. its inexperience i see… positioning is all important, and our lads are developing all the time… you might argue that arshavin and diaby are experienced enough, but in absolute honesty, they are being played in new positions.. its quite rare to have the exact players for the positions.. especially in a fluid system like arsenal.. thats the beauty of our football.. that being told, arshavin is kind of an exception.. hes just weird in the sense that he looks like he plays for himself.. but not the others..
Entirely disagree yaniv. At the start of the season, we pressed teams hard, from the front, all the way to the back 4. After a while, they stopped/stopped giving a shit and it was all too apparent. Diaby, Arshavin, Nasri, Walcott, fuck it, all of them don’t track back.
They don’t give a shit really. We pay well, there is no threat of being replaced, so why bother? Motivation is key in all organisations and it is missing in ours.
Sol, TV and a couple other seem to care a little more, but they are yet to settle/resettle after a while, they too will stop giving a fuck.
gk-schwarczer,fabianski,mannone,szczesny
cb-vermaelen,koscielny,djourou,campbell(bartley),nortveit
rb-van der wiel,eboue,coquelin
lb-clichy,gibbs,traore
dm-song,eastmond,emmanuel-thomas
cm-diaby,denilson,ramsey,galindo
am-nasri,wilshere,lansbury
wf-arshavin(gourcuff/van der waat;switch position with nasri if either come),rosicky(cole/hleb),walcott,vela,barazite
cf-van persie,chamakh,bendtner
players out-almunia,gallas,senderos,silvestre,sagna,fabregas,merida,eduardo