Arsène Wenger will run the rule over last years loanees as well as a selection of promising Reserve team players when pre-season kicks off a week on Wednesday.
Neil Banfield’s first-team hopefuls will return to London Colney at the same time as the first-team, on July 6th, instead of earlier, as with previous years, with the rest starting medical tests on the 4th. Wenger is expected to concentrate his early efforts on those who made significant strides on loan last season, with a view to including them in his re-shuffled squad.
Kyle Bartley is the most prominent candidate to make the step up, with Arsène already holding off interest from Rangers until he’s taken a closer look at the 20-year-old. Carlos Vela and Jay Emmanuel-Thomas are two players with a lot prove, or they could both find themselves spending next season at pastures new.
French duo Francis Coquelin and Gilles Sunu, as well as defender Ignasi Miquel, won’t be involved, as they’re preparing for the Under 20 World Cup. Coquelin’s omission will present opportunities to Craig Eastmond and Emmanuel Frimpong, both of whom will hope to become Alexandre Song’s deputy.
Wellington Silva, Ryo Miyaichi and Samuel Galindo are all due back, but it’s not yet clear yet if they’ll start training on July 7th, or will join up later, due to visa issues.
And what about Lansbury?
Have the definite impression that Lansbury will end up heading out the door.
He didn’t feature that highly for Norwich, being used more as a late sub, and the fact that he was allowed to flirt with the idea of a permanent move to Brighton suggests that Wenger isn’t totally convinced by him.
not mentioned because it’s obvious lansbury will train with the first team
you missed Lansbury mate and he’s probably the most likely to come into the team
Will afobe get a chance? He was injured at the end of last season, is he fit now?
Same question, What about Lansbury?
yap, sorry, you said last year loanees will get a chance… good article, as always…
Answer is in the first line of the article on Lansbury and Afobe:
“Arsène Wenger will run the rule over last years loanees”
Afobe and Lansbury will both get a first-team chance.
JS, what about Pedro, will he be given a chance to prove himself?
Yes, what about Lansbury? Could be the key newcomer to the squad this season.
real pity we missed out on raphael varane to real madrid
Craig Eastmond will get a chance? How will that happen? Didn’t he fail terribly at his loan spell? Couldn’t get in the team and what not? Lansbury should get a run out I believe as well as Bartley. I’m really looking forward to next week though as I usually do. Let’s see which new guy stands out this year.
I said Eastmond was not good enough for Arsenal from the very beginning and everyone disagreed. I seriously don’t see why you have to let a player play in the first team and hold us back to see that the quality is simply not there. Biggest flaw in Arsene’s management to me is how we always let 1 or 2 guys that are definitely weak spots ruin all the good. In the past it has been Senderous (remember that champions league game verse liverpool), Sylvestre, Eastmond, Denilson, and Almunia are some good examples. Yes, some have clear talent that we let slide because our financial position so we hope they will put it together like Walcott and Bendtner but some simply are not good enough and don’t need to be in or around the first team.
By the way, I am not slagging them off or doubting their careers in football, just speaking the reality of the level of player you need at Arsenal.
As others have said you missed out Afobe and Lansbury. But also Aneke, still have high hopes for him!
I really want to use some of our loanees to get some players. Loan Miguel, Afobe and Aneke to Bolton and buy Cahill. Those three get to play at the top level and we get the centerback we need.
Loans Sunu and Coquelin plus money for Hazzard. Instead of 15 loanees maybe we should turn some of them into first team players.
None of those guys you listed would be courted by Bolton at this point. Why do some people think the loan system is that you just put a couple players in a basket and drop them off at a clubs front door?
Aneke wouldn’t get near the Bolton midfield…nor Afobe upfront.
jay emmanuel thomas and carlos vela are two players with a lot to prove- really? you cant put both of them on the same level vela has proven a lot from the day he scored that hatrick on his debut afobe, lasbury and bartley are all overated and will not make it in arsenal
TexasGooner6 add to Lille Squillachi for Hazard(plus one year loan Hazard to Lille)
kyle bartley!
i am suspecting arsene wants to assess him first before he decides whether to buy a new defender or not. i hope he does well in pre-seasons
do you know if it will be the first team or reserves playing in Cologne? I just bought tickets for it, but since the team only get back from their Malaysia tour the week before I’m not sure which team will be picked. hopefully not reserves!
play Lansbury at right back…….yes!!!….can someone tell me how much they LOVE me……in like 50 words……i think thats reasnable……please, thank you!!…even if its a lie!!!….i need to hear it…..read it……out LOUD!!!…..
craig eastmond definatly not good enough hes had plenty of chances.wat age is he now to 20 r 21!!! frimpong a better option. i dont think jet will make it here either
Eastmod’s 19
Speaking of Loanees, when are you gonna finish the loanee report Mr. Sanderson? I know you’re finished all the write up and you’re trickling them over the off/pre-season, but at this rate, by the time you’ve posted the final loanee report, the season will be over. :D
Galindo is playing for Bolivia in U20 world cup too.
Considering Bolivia didn’t qualify for the u20 world cup I seriously doubt that.
While Bartley probably is ability and experience- wise the most prominent candidate to make the step up I think it will be difficult for him coz I think his route to the first team will be blocked by the signature Wenger will no doubt have to make to appease the fans.
Also I think Wenger is too stubborn to get rid of Squillaci this summer
Another year at Rangers wouldn’t be the worst thing for him though, he’s good enough for a prem loan but can’t see any prem mgrs taking him
I think hes gonna be a great player in a couple of years, anyone who can dish it out in the Old Firm at 19 and not go hiding afterwards is just what we need
remember that wenger has not stated publicly that he’s signing a defender. just fans speculations and the media. a new buy is definately a good thing for arsenal fc. i am sure its a big headache for him. still he has a young defence thats developing and a loanee knocking on his door.
dont be surprised if he tells us that bartley is like a new signing. a fit again thomas vermaelen, definately another new signing.
i try to ignore the rumours as much as possible, i will believe it when i see samba or cahill in an arsenal shirt.
I believe the Arsenal have signed too many kids compared to the top teams.The latest is Chamberlain. Young is the finished product.Is there any guarantee the latter would make waves in two years time?
Recall Senderos/Upson/Hoyte etc. All these guys came with impeccable curriculum vitae.The gunners have ,imho,fallen way way behind the red faced.This season will show whether Wenger can close the gap.If not,he will have to go.
Ok Bubble Boy….welcome to the real world where things let debts play a part in transfer strategy or at least they do for responsible clubs. Look at football now. We can not afford a world class player plus the only world class player Arsenal have bought in any recent times has been Dennis Bergkamp. The rest were all made stars at Arsenal. In resent years, we have bought a first player almost every transfer window. This year it looks like we are ready and financial able to go after 2 or 3. I could go much deeper into the situation but it has been stated over and over again so if you have not understood it by now then you never will.
Hoyte and Upson came through the youth system. Senderos cost relative peanuts at the time. Your choice of names to use as examples is hugely flawed; especially when you consider the fees we received for those three players (not a lot, but enough to have funded their time at the Emirates/Highbury).
We will see at least another four signings in the off season*; all of which will be either on the cusp of, or in their peak years (O-C is not included among these). This will appease the anti-wengerites and fill the gaps in strength and mindset that were evident in the campaign just passed.
The youth players we bring in this year should be seen as little more than a bonus…well aside from O-C; who, at the price being touted will be expected to step up, and i think he has the ability to.
*This assumption is based on a post-season interview by Wenger, and straight up logic: Bendtner is leaving, a replacement is required; Cesc will likely leave, a replacement will be required…etc.
Oh, and anybody got the odds on who’ll be our next captain (in the unheard of event that Cesc leaves)? Vermaelen or Van Persie? My money would be on a defender…
I don’t think Cescs leaving before i see it, and Wengers never gonna sign four or more in summer for the first team, maybe one or two, you’re daydreaming pal!
BAM: We bought Upson from Luton mate.
I think Kyle Bartley is ready now and will prove to be a better all round centre back than the majority of names we have been linked with, that is my opinion but I have seen this guy many times, mentally he is very strong, a great leader and organiser, and has pretty much every attribute you could wish for in a centre back, I hope he gets the opportunity to prove the doubters wrong.
Personally I think Bartley would be better off on 1 more loan spell at Rangers were he will gain valuable experience and instead of wasting all that money on a Cahill, we can address our defensive mid area because we need more then just Song because he can’t play every game but then if we signed another center back, Song (would still be the starting def mid) could become the 4th choice center back as well.
i wouldn’t be too happy going into a season with only vermaelen, djorou, koscielny and bartley as our centre backs, no matter how the kid does in preseason. if wenger chooses this, next season will have the same ending as the past 5 seasons.
we need a big rock of a player back there. i don’t like samba especially but he’s probably worth 15 points to our season purely because he’s a big lump who will stop many of the casual aerial attacks that do us in.
bartley should come in as the fifth choice centre back. and wenger should give him 10-15 starts. he should spread the starts around more. too much reliance on key players tires them out and derails our season.
How would a 5th choice center back get 10 to 15 starts? Some of your points are good but I swear, defending is not all about your centerbacks. By the way, simply on the fact that Vermaelen is not likely to miss a whole season so Squillaci will not start 20 games which will help a lot.
A MUST READ
Here are some interesting facts for you people to ponder.
If Vermaelen does not get a freak long term injury we would have won the premier league. Koscielny, Djurou and Vermaelen are plenty good enough to win the league and 17 million does not need to be wasted on Cahill and I will prove it. Just because of a freak injury does not mean we need to panic. Buying another defensive mid which we need anyways and allowing Song to be the 4th choice CB just incase would be sufficient.
Arsenal lost 8 premier league games last year. Squillaci was a starter in 6 of those losses.
Now on the Fabregas situation and people that claim we should just sell him and he doesn’t put in the effort for us any more.
Fabregas started 22 games in which we took 51 out of a possible 66 points. That is an average of 2.318 points a game. Now for the people that don’t understand math, if Cesc had played all 38 games, we would have finished off on 88 points which would have won us the league.
I just find people perceptions and facts to be all messed up at Arsenal. I hope Wenger sees the truth and makes the right decisions rather then acting on impulse to all this negativity around the club.
7 people are just stuck on their beliefs no matter what information is presented to them.
the point you’re ignoring is that freak/long-term injuries to key players are all too common, especially at arsenal.
vermaelen, koscielny, djorou and song as cover is absolutely not enough to cover injuries through a long season.
fewer players covering key positions means more injuries and more reliance on weaker squad players.
we need at least one solid ccentral defender plus bartley to be comfortable for the season. anything less is reckless.
I did not ignore that. I said we should add another defensive mid because we need depth there and that would allow Song to be 4th choice. That would be much better then having Squallaci play 20 games.
I’d like to see youngsters coming through but we have seen this happen quite a lot in these years;have we seen us winning trophies?That is the most important thing for me.Of course youngsters will come through and get into the starting eleven,we have seen many examples of that at Arsenal because our model revolves around bringing in young players.Fabregas is almost certain to leave this summer;Nasri?Maybe.If we keep concentrating on our youth rather than on winning trophies,all the players in the starting eleven will be our youth players come next season with no trophy to show.Which one would be your choice?
samba or not, arsenal needs a complete facelift.
he will be a great addition to the squad.
it will not make sense if deadwoods are still in the team.denilson running like headless chicken, eboue making stupid mistakes that cost us games and arshavin looking bored on the pitch.
if 3 players are not up to scratch we will be lucky to get a draw. the whole team will underperform coz thats 30% of the team affected.
yes we did have that in the past but we won…. and yes we had matchwinner in henry and master passer like vieira and cygan can leave the pitch with a relief.
Here is another one. With Djurou starting we only lost 2 games out of his 22 appearances. Here goes some more stats aka facts that might surprise you and make you rethink your opinions.
Here is each teams goal against numbers when each player has played at center back in the premier league last year.
Vidic – 35 games and 33 goals against. That is O.94 goals against per game.
Kompany – 37 games and 33 goals against. That is 0.89 goals against per game.
Djurou – 22 games and 15 goals against. That is an amazing 0.68 goals against per game.
It is funny how much perception plays a part in people’s thinkings. We are much closer to success then people paint out but unfortunately it looks like the media perceptions and fans over reactions are finally going to tear the project apart.
@shane
samba and cahill dont have champions league experience.
and how are they going to win us the league? they’ve never won any before.
samba could rescue us because of his size, ok! how tall are barca players?
you win games only when you outplay and outscore the opposition not because you are big.
funny! all of our summer targets are ignored by all other big teams. if the media has their way we will end up with all the average players next season….. parker, samba, cahill and worse, barton? oh my God!
the truth is none is these clown will wear arsenal shirt next season.
and shay given never won anything, if he’s warming the bench at city why is gonna be number 1 at arsenal.
the media has been very disrespecful of arsenal this summer i hope arsene prove them wrong this season. barton?
I agree for the most part mate. I personally have liked Samba tho for a while now, even before this season. He is a diamond in the rough for me and I think people would be surprised by him if he was at a big club.
I agree on the overall point though and it is the point I have been pushing forever now. I just decided to break what I naturally see down to numbers for others to recognize. I personally hold a very clear view of most situations because I don’t get caught up in the hype or the over reaction to situations. I just see things for what they are. This is why my opinions rarely change on a subject because I have thought it thoroughly.
In my opinion, we need 2 to 3 players tops to win the premier league. Anything else would be a bonus for me. We need another quality defensive mid because Song can not play every game and Song could also be used as a 4th choice center back. We need another quality striker because RVP tends to get injured and you need a top striker to win the league point blank. I truly believe Vela can make that step this year but I don’t know the ins and outs of the situation with him. The last thing is a wide forward that runs at defenders with skill and pace, links up well, can get you 12 to 15 goals and gets assists because you need that with the formation we play. That is why Gervinho would be nice because he is a 2 for 1 signing. He is good at striker and out wide. I would also love Douglas Costa or of course my dream signing for us…Eden Hazard.
We also just need to cut out the real weak links like Denilson, Eastmond, Squilacci (loan out Bartley but keep him open for a recall), Watt, Almunia (if he is not fine with being the back up), and am on the fence about Bendtner. He needs to step up and perform and stop talking or simply leave. Then Chamahk is average for me but is decent for depth. Rosicky is borderline for me if Lansbury is going to stay, he can step into Rosicky’s role.
You make no sense. How do you know the players we are after are not chase by other big club??? According to the news you seems to read to get your facts…… Mata is wanted by us and I’m pretty sure he is wanted by all the top clubs. That is one example to rubbish your comment completely. AND the second of all Bayern is a big club… guess who they want? No not Messi, they want Bendtner who is already in our club. He is rubbish. So obviously the big clubs does not decide who will win the league for us. It’s all about putting a good team together and so far it looks like Wenger will bring in players that are good enough to win the league.
If you are referring to Sam then I believe he was just trying to point out the media’s love of saying we “need” these over rated players just because they play in england and I have even heard several people on here that want some of these over rated EPL players.
Craig Eastmond is just not good enough. When are we going to stop wasting our time and release him and give another lad a chance? He’s the worst player I’ve seen at Arsenal in the past couple of seasons along with Justin Hoyte.
These two make Denilson and Diaby look like Garrincha and Pele.
It is a real shame that coquelin has gone to the u20 world cup because i believe he has got a great chance as he has done well at lorient appearing many times and can tackle and is an accomplished passer of the ball. Also whether landsbury can make it or not i’m not sure he has great heart and good stamina but whether he has the technical ability to get into the arsenal first team i am not sure as we have ramsey wilshere song diaby fabregas(hopefully staying)and i am not really sure where lansbury will fit in
He can compete for the Rosicky role first.
You’re saying Lans doesn’t have technical ability to fit in Arsenal first team, i don’t think that’s the point, i think the case is does he have the pace to to play on the wings cause he ain’t gonna got chance to play in the middle in the first team at least yet.
Bartley spent much of his time on loan at Rangers playing in the holding/defensive/anchor midfield role, perhaps he will come in to the squad as Song’s understudy, and move back in to his natural central back position in a season or two time once the likes of Squillaci etc have left.
@sam
“samba and cahill dont have champions league experience.
and how are they going to win us the league? they’ve never won any before.”
you got a point but its not true. what did vidic,ferdinand, rooney n cr7, saha won before going to manchester united ? NONE!!! it doesnt matter there r good players in shitty teams n u can even find players with strong mentality in shitty teams too! its not about which team they come from its abt how good they are! uf ur thinking abt the team team that they come from then i guess its better to buy gabriel milito or oleguer (ex. barca now with ajax) then a quality cb that plays for a small team! so u think man utd did a mistake by buying ashley young who has no champions league experience n no trophies at all? i bet more the 90% of the ppl in here will love to have ashley young in our team
I agree, Bartley could come in as a 5th choice CB (probably with Squillaci leaving and another coming in) and 2nd choice DM.
We have heard that he wants opportunities in the the first team and this will give them to him. He would be a starter in the Carling Cup and early rounds of the FA Cup.
I know some people will argue that he is not experienced in this role and level and will be raw. But Emmanuel Frimpong for me is the definition of raw. And Eastmond for all his effort does not have the quality needed for the very top.
Hopefully a bit of competition would stop complacency slip into Songs game too.
Why should Squillaci leave? If Bartley’s good enough, he and Squillaci can fight it out to be our back-up. For all the criticism, half the teams in the league would love to have Squillaci – he’d be first choice – so it’s nonsense to suggest that he’s not good enough. We’d always like better, but it’s unlikely that anyone significantly better will be willing to come and be our back-up.
I wouldn’t agree on the need for a defensive midfielder – Denilson has shown enough that if we can persuade him to stay, he deserves longer. Basically, the same as Bendtner – evidently lots of talent there, haven’t developed as fast as we might like, but still a lot of improvement to come.
What have you been watching lately mate? Denilson has proven that he is not good enough to be the defensive mid seeing as he can’t even tackle and Squillaci…well did you see the evidence I presented lol.
Shouldn’t take too long.
Most of them are garbage.
And u r….. better than Wenger and his staff?
squillaci is not a bad defender, he just failed to settle quickly like koscielny now its up to wenger to decide if he’s gonna need more time. at the time i feel there is no time to wait for player to settle we can’t afford to throw away games anymore.
the most embarrassing period was when we had to replay ipwich,leeds and leyton. it also had huge impact coz wenger had to bring in senior players and it prevent them enough rest
Lansbury should be in squad. Get these no hope foreign clowns out including Diaby
Why oh why did we turn down £10m for that pratt?
Man it is frustrating to see how high the prices are being quoted for Eden Hazard now days. This one has pissed me off. We knew about his talent for ever now and he always made his ambitions to join Arsenal clear but we did nothing. Wenger even made a comment about his intent to bring him to Arsenal but we just wait and wait and now there is no chance he will ever end up at Arsenal.
I am normally calm about our situation but allowing Nasri’s contract to run down to the last year and if we sell Fabregas for a cheap price….i will be pissed. Some stuff, I just find hard to believe.
i think most of young players who are only 19-20 should realy go out on loan again particualy players playing dm position i dont evon think song should be first choice
lol….you don’t think Song should be first choice? Are you kidding me…
Shane>
Squillaci> I’m not saying he should be first choice or anything – just that we’re unlikely to get anyone better than him who will be our back-up. He’s probably not as good as Samba or Cahill (although he was only in his first PL season) but he’s still a decent quality CB on a par with all those who aren’t quite as good as Samba and co. He’d be first-choice or thereabouts for half the teams in the league. If Kyle Bartley is actually ready to start making the step-up to the first-team, opportunities for our back-up CB will be even more limited.
Denilson – you’re right, he’s not an out-and-out tackler, but I still think he’s got something special. Technically, he’s immaculate most of the time – passing and so-on – and he has an uncanny ability to be in the right place at the right time that the ball pops out of a melee to his feet. Bit like a fox-in-the-box has a knack for anticipating where the ball will break lose in the six-yard box, except Denilson does it in our own half. I really hope he stays, because he’s a very, very decent young player to have in the squad.
Personally I think you are completely wrong. If we sign another defensive mid then Song could become that 4th option just in case. Song is miles better the Squillaci. As for Denilson, he is going straight backwards. He started here with great potential and looked like a good player but he is getting worse and worse. I don’t want to downgrade our players to much but his time has just ran out here plus he has been talking massive shit about the club. We need 1 more real defensive mid which Denilson is not.
If we buy another CB then realistically we have to get rid of an existing one as they will take up 5 of the 25 places in the squad. Squillaci is the leading candidate for this as he was the lowest on the pecking order and is the oldest.
Theoretically Vermaelen, Koscielny & Djourou all have their peak years ahead of them.
But for all the talk of buying a new CB I wouldn’t be distraught if we started the season with Vermaelen & Djourou as our first choice pairing.
Shane>
Two things: firstly, you over-rate Song as a CB, I’m afraid – he’s a world class DM, but a large part of that is his ability going forward; I wouldn’t want him playing a significant role at CB if for no other reason than that he’s wasted if he’s not in midfield.
I kind of agree with you that we could do with another defensive midfielder of Song’s class – if you know where another Song’s hiding, give Wenger a call. In the absence of a top, top player, Denilson and Diaby aren’t bad as the next level goes – and have the potential to become a lot better. If we can persuade them both to stay, and can afford to keep them, whilst another DM comes in, that’ll be great.
Your suggestion that Denilson has been getting ‘worse and worse’ doesn’t hold water, I’m afraid. He hasn’t been in scintillating form, but he’s hardly been going backwards – he just hasn’t improved particularly noticeably, but then he’s not a very noticeable player.
Oh, and I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the way the papers report what Denilson has ‘said’. At most he’s guilty of being slightly tactless in saying things which could be twisted, out of context, to sound bad.
Funny choice of words on Denilson because he is literally going backwards or at least side way in almost every pass he makes. He can not pass over 2 yards and he always gets caught on the ball not to mention like I said, he can’t tackle. You are about the only person I know on here that still thinks Denilson is quality enough for Arsenal.
As for Song, he is class at center back too. You need to go back and watch some of his games their. Diaby is not a defensive mid. There are some quality options out there from Vidal, Fellaini to about 4 or 5 in the french league. Vertonghen who would also be a versatile option. Inler or Jucka (Genoa). Trust me, if Wenger wanted to find a defensive mid, he could.
On Denilson talking, the things that were quoted I seriously doubt someone would just make up. Plus it is not like when false stories a written, they go after back up players.
“Funny choice of words on Denilson because he is literally going backwards or at least side way in almost every pass he makes.”
They were your words… And not ‘literally’, no. If you actually compare his passes to, say, Wilshere’s, you’ll see a lot less difference than you’ve imagined is there.
Fellaini? Fuck yeah, he’s top class. Can you see him leaving Everton for much less than £30 million or so, though? Inler, nowhere near better than Denilson. I don’t know about Vidal, haven’t seen him much myself. Sure, there are players out there – but for a reasonable price? I’m not so confident in Wenger’s ability to create players from nothing, even if sometimes it seems like he can. If they’re not there to be signed, he can’t find them. I’m not saying there’s no-one, but I wouldn’t be as certain as you seem to be that there’s someone suitable out there.
“On Denilson talking, the things that were quoted I seriously doubt someone would just make up.”
No, they weren’t ‘made up’. They never are. They were just twisted to sound bad, when in fact they were perfectly reasonable things to say. Are you honestly telling me that you haven’t yet realised that the papers do that as a matter of course? Doesn’t say much for your judgement…
GUESS THE ONLY OPTION I HAVE TO GET MY POINT THOUGH IS BY WRITING IN FULL CAPS LOL. IF YOU HONESTLY THINK DENILSON IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ARSENAL THEN IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A REASONABLE CONVERSATION.
Seriously we are talking about spending 17 million on Cahill who is no better then our top 3 center backs so I am pretty sure 17 million could find us a much better defensive mid then Denilson which we definitely need.
As for Denilson comments, some of the ones that he said no matter what context they are in were flat out disrespectful to Arsenal. None of it matters because like I said, we still need another defensive mid period. There are tons of options better then Denilson trust me. You honestly think Denilson is better then Inler? lol
Let’s see, the CAPS are unnecessary if you have a real point to put across.
I agree with you on most everything, except that Denilson is shite and that Inler is better. Seriously, I rate Denilson higher.
I completely agree that £17m would be better spent on a classy DM than on Cahill, but only if one is available. Unlike you, I don’t think Inler’s in the picture there. I think it’s quite possible that we’d only get a DM of Cahill’s standard (at CB, obviously) for that money, though, and it would have to be another brilliant Wenger signing to be any real improvement on Denilson – because in today’s market, £17 million doesn’t buy you an established world-class player.
Put it this way: would you really say that Denilson has been much worse than not-quite-good-enough? He doesn’t need to improve much to be just-about-good-enough, and if he improves more than that, which he might well do, he’ll be a real asset.
It seems to me that you ignore the fact that Denilson is still fairly young, and will undoubtedly still improve. I’m not satisfied with what he produced last season, but I don’t think he is likely to be either. If he comes back, gets his head down, and works hard, we could see him really make a mark.
My point was not that 17 million needs to be spent on a DM but that in the range of 17 and under Wenger can find a class defensive mid. There are several good ones in france right now.
Yes, for one like I have stated, Denilson is far from good enough to be an Arsenal player. The 2nd thing is he is not even a defensive mid. Yes he is a holding mid but he never tackles or breaks up play. We need another actual defensive mid. Denilson provides nothing to the team other then an occasional long shot and the ability to make a 2 yard pass which all of our players can do that. I was a fan of Denilson when he first can but he has simply gotten worse each year. His time has run its course here for me and the main point is he is not even that much of a defensive midfielder.
Fair enough on your opinion but I just completely disagree. cheers mate
It’s natural to get excited after having a look on prospects from Neil Banfield’s team, but we must not forget , First team in not just another level, it’s more thatn that. Players like. Kyle Bartley, Lansbury, Ramsey, Gibbs, Mannone, Coquelin, Vela, JET need to prove themselves on Loan with a Premier League Club, just like Jack Wilshere, Danny Sturridge. AT Arsenal you have to fight for Title . you are not allowed to learn from your mistakes cause mistakes cause points.
These players might be knocking on the door of first team room, but it’s already congested. It takes more than just talent to get to the middle of it.
To be Honest if a Player is not exceptionally talented like Wilshere , Fabregas, He must not be a part of The team before he is 22. Let them make msitakes, Let them learn at other places.
If Arsenal start Winning trophies They will be willing to wait.
Most importantly let’s not Over-Value our youngsters, Many of them have left on free transfer or very less, like Barazite, Randall, Nordveit, Cruise ….. and Those who haev played for First team Bendtner and Denilson are not wanted by any team for the money we want from them. So it’s not as successful as Arsene would have wanted it. But lets Hope for the best.
Arsene I still trust.