Carlos Vela is hoping to leave Arsenal on loan this summer, but French outfit Lorient have not made an offer, according to the players agent Eduardo Hernández.
Vela has been an almost ever present during pre-season, after returning to North London following a six month stint with West Brom, where he scored two goals in eight matches. However, despite a summer reshuffle, the Mexican still finds himself down the pecking order.
Ligue One side Lorient were strongly linked with a move to sign Carlos on loan earlier in the week, but in an interview with Foot Mercato, agent Eduardo Hernández revealed there had been no contact over a deal, but Vela is willing to move on loan once again.
“We received no call from Lorient. I am in daily contact with Arsenal and nobody told me of such interest. As for the future of Carlos at Arsenal, it is true that we will discuss and study the possibility of going on loan.”
A key sticking point in any move would be the length of the loan, with Gervinho and Marouane Chamakh poised to jet off in January for the African Cup of Nations. A short-term move is likely to suit all parties, especially if the club can complete the protracted transfer of Saprissa striker Joel Campbell.
More news on potential ins and outs are expected in the next few days.
I do hope he gets the right loan; he has so much talent but doesn’t seem to fit in a lot of teams.
a loan till the african cup of nations would be an excellent way for him to get into for before being used more often for the first team…
Really he should be saying he wants to stay and fight especially now Bendtner is going. He won’t need to play on the wing cos we’ve got Arsh, AOC, Miyachi, Gervinho, maybe Nasri, Walcott but he should push to try and be 2nd choice to RVP up front
A half of a year at Lorient would be fine for him.
As I expcected if Joel Campbell comes, not sure where to play him because he’s not quite a Winger either. If only his agent didn’t mess about with Bolton perhaps he would have proved himself there instead of sitting on the bench at West Brom.
Campbell might be more suited to the central role as well, although I think he plays on the wing quite often and I don’t think it would be a problem for him to play there.
It would be awesome if he could find the right club to go on loan to. Get some playing time and proof himself. Don’t want to lose him.
How about just releasing him, just don’t see him making it at Arsenal.
Someone has to give him a proper chance. It should be at arsenal, but i can’t see where he fits into this team at the moment.
Feyenoord? They need a striker and as part of this informal relationship this would suit both parties perfectly.
I would have thought that Vela would have a future at Arsenal as a winger BUT now with the likes of Oxlade arriving and Miyaichi being granted work permit, that also seems unlikely… His future at Arsenal seems shorter then it was before.
yeah loan him to feyenoord til the ACN
Show pony..maybe it’s time for him to leave.
You guys are craZy to want him to leave or go on loan.. If RVP gets injured what strikers have we got then???? Joel Campbell may not arrive, arshavin gets bullied when he plays there and gervinho likes roaming and at jus under 6ft and it being his first season in the BPL I don’t think we should leave us short up front. He is more talented than the little pea in Manchester but he needs to have the same work rate and hunger and that will come with confidence and playing every carling cup game and maybe fa cup..
Also the thing is at our stadium is the supporters don’t get behind the team enough. I went to 13 games at home last season and when I’m shouting cheering clapping and only booing the opposition people look at me like I’m mad or doing something wrong .. Let’s get behind our club and support em
When I shout or sing, I feel like I’m some kind of drunk with the looks I get.
Thank you. The Emirates fans are just about the worst part about our club. Keep it up mate.
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Talented player but he just doesn’t fit in a 4-3-3. Average on the wing and too slight to be the lone CF. We saw the best of him (and Bendtner)when they played together in a 4-4-2 in the CC. Had some brilliant games together, linking up superbly.
I think we’re woefully short upfront with Nic going. Bendtner ain’t great but he’s a lot better than Chamakh. What the hell has happened to Maroune? He is beyond useless these days. Absolutely terrible. I think this could be the year for Theo to finally move to his preferred central striker position, he’s not a winger and never will be. Let’s hope it works out.
Although
Your logic is that Vela does not fit the 4-3-3 (Which we did not even play last year) but Walcott does? Vela would be just fine when he gets a chance and if he stands up and works hard. Our style is better fit for a guy that is quick, good on the ball and a great finisher rather then just a big guy. Vela fits it perfectly.
ridiculous…paid £3.5 mil for him and never game him a shot. meawhile the plank of wood that is denilson racks up 250 games.
if vela isn’t given a chance this year at arsenal, it will be a spectacular failure of talent-management. vela has crazy talent.
We paid like 550 thousand pounds mate
* I don’t think a 4-4-3 would really suit Theo either. Wenger needs to be flexible, we don’t need to play 4-4-3 every single game.
Really?? I’d love us to play a 4-4-3 every single game, I truly think with that formation we would stand a really good chance of winning something this year…
lol…i made the point on walcott before I read this. Not sure what formation you were saying because you had like 12 players in that formation but Arsene like most coaches focus on training in 1 formation for the year. How we play often requires players to know exactly where to be and is complicated so switching formations does not work that well. Honestly Fergusen is the only big coach that I know that switches formations a lot which to me is down to his simple tactics. He generally just has his center mids sit in and do the dirty work and normally realize on having top players in the business end of the pitch. The rock at the back of Vidic, Van der sar and Ferdinand and top players up top.
is there a formation like 4-4-3?
umm we havnt been playing 4-3-3 we’ve been playing 4-2-3-1
I really don’t know what Wenger is thinking. Vela is talented, but increasingly Arsenal doesn’t seem to be the right team for him. He should have been sold to a mid-table Spanish team which he’ll start at the front in 4-4-2 week in week out. Painful to see another failed youth project.
Yeah.. 4-4-3, thats it. But not sure those cunts in FA or FIFA would allow that..
If we let him go, we are setting our selfs up for failure. Man up Vela and earn your spot. I can just see it next year. RVP gets hurt, Chamahk starts 10 games before we come to the realization that he is not very good, Gervinho is off at the African cup of nations and we are stuck without a striker. Seriously getting tired of our whiny little kids. What happened to manning up and earning your spot. It seems to be becoming a culture at Arsenal which is not good. Bendtner cry baby ass wonders why he is not a starter yet even though no body else wants him. Clichy bitch ass talking about we don’t win trophies even though it was his shity positioning the kept losing us big games. Money Nasri looking for a quick pay day going to Man Shity who even tho they have spent 10 times as much as anyone, could not win the title. Can’t wait until they discard him like trash, I mean Adebayor. Fuck does anyone listen to Hleb? He has been there and done that. Then the worst captain in the history of football. I don’t care if he stays but at least take that arm band off him. How more disrespectful to a club can you be. The messed up part is, Barcelona don’t even want him that bad. Seriously we just watched Pastore go for 37 million pounds and Barcelona will not even pay up the 40 million for Fabregas. That is a bargain. And Fuck off to any douche bag that says we should let the baby go. He signed an 8 YEAR CONTRACT so he can suck it up, it is his fault. I am done with these babies we have on our team. If they want to go then they can sit out until someone offers up the right fees for all I care. I would rather get relegated then listen to anymore of these spoiled brats complain about “not winning trophies” blah blah blah because new flash…you are part of the reason we have not been winning trophies so you bailing is not going to matter. Lets get behind the players that want to be here and want to at least try to bring this club success and get behind the one guy who has chosen not to bail out on us when he could have easily done so in Wenger. You moaners about Wenger are the most pathetic people. (not talking about the people that just have constructive thoughts) With out Wenger, you would not even have all this stuff to complain about. You would be complaining about why we are not even qualifying for Europa league.
Sorry for my rant but it gets a little old hearing all this negativity even when we sign one of the best talents in the world in AOC and a guy that just lead his team to a title in Gervinho. PS if you don’t want to pay for the expensive Arsenal tickets then don’t buy them. Simple enough.
By the way, I don’t care if Manchester City win the next 20 league titles because they have failed us a club. Manchester City is no different then the banks. They got bailed out because they are a failure. I will take anything Arsenal do over Man Shity any day because we earn what we get. We don’t just sit around and hope we get lucky.
Bravo!
Hey JS,
Do you have any confirmed source updated on Juan Mata deal.
Is there any truth that by monday 15th, Carlos Vela will be included in the Juan Mata’s deal. He will join Valencia on a one year loan with Arsenal paying 16 millions euros +3 millions based on appearances and succes. Mata has already agreed a deal of 63k pounds per week wage.
Vela is like JET, lazy and not a pro. He forgets his passport and doesn’t give 100%. He will never be a first starter at Arsenal, only a bench warmer, useful though. Why is he leaving on loan? Because I truly believe Wenger is buying a striker! Rodallega, Odemwingie or Podolski. Forget Benzema, he ain’t coming! All the best to Vela on loan, hope he bangs 20 goals on loan and becomes 2-3 choice striker at Arsenal. Persie first forever!
It always cracks me up when people suggest signings. It makes me happy that Wenger is in charge and not us because we would have an awful team if he listened to suggestions on here. Podolski does not even play up top and he was a flop at Bayern Munich. Odemwingie had one good year in about 7. We might as well sign DJ Campbell lol. Rodellega is a good player who I have been a fan of sense he played at Atlas in Mexico so no objection to him lol.
LMAO!!!! Well said shane… well said. I knew you would lose that rational side for a minute and you know what??? there’s nothing wrong with doing it because you just spoke the truth. I KNOW this clearing house would be good for us long term and possibly short term. Man Utd is not a lock to win the title, no one is because of the level of balance in the Premiership and as a result we still have a punchers chance. A few more pieces and we’ll see how it shakes out. By the way ROTFL on the bendtner comment…. spot on!!!! and to think a couple of people on these blogs thought he was the next coming of christ.
Bendtner’s better than Chamakh.
I still rate Nic, I reckon he’ll have a good career. Best for all concerned that he moves on though.
Oh and Shane, what did we play last season if we didn’t play 4-3-3? If you’re gonna say 4-5-1, it’s practically the same. One lone striker and two players supporting from the wings. Or a 4-2-3-1, again it’s practically the same. The important thing is we play a lone CF, a role that DOES NOT suit Vela. You don’t have to be Didier Drogba to play a lone striker role but you have to have some phsyical presence- you’re expected to be strong enough to hold the ball up. Vela would be absolutely mullered by the cloggers like Ryan Shawcross that make up the majority of PL centre backs.
Vela is miles better in a 4-4-2, this is fact.
If you think all the formations are the same then you are tactically inept mate. Yes, in a game verse Stoke, having a big striker would be good but generally we play quick passing technical game with lots of movement. Most big strikers don’t fit that very well. This is why Ibrahimovic was not a huge success at Barcelona. Chicharito (not big), Rooney (kind of strong but not big), RVP (Not big), Tevez (Not big), Aguero (Not big), Defoe (not big), etc. Arsenal’s style is not to lob it up to a striker at have him hold on to it. We generally get about 8 players around the box and try to break down a team for 90 minutes with lots of quick movement and passing.
@shane bravo,most of your points are spot on.wenger could have easily walked out but he stayed,to all those jerks out there,we dont have as much revenue as manutd,real..we have had to earn our way to the top we could have used some loyalty(with regards to hleb,flamini)but we couldnt get it..funny nasri should speak about not winning trophies he did quite well in the first half of last season but then dozed off when we really needed him,if the whom team wants out i dont care a heck,they are the reason we havent won a smootie.good gracious we cry babies wenger spent around 25m on just two players,& he’s looking to add more.since the departure mourinho chelsea has been swithing manager like a pack of tissue paper.heed this if wenger leaves we may find a good manager but you cant guarantee we’ll find a manager who would love this club..in regards to chamakh,i’am stunned how could a player do so well in the first half of a season & drop down so badly??i’m not going to comment on which players i would insha’Allah like to see but i would say aqulini of everton is right up there along with hazard but unfortunately if your an arsenal fan we have to be content with what we get..that part could change
Cheers mate. If you go back and watch Chamahk, he was not great. He stumbled onto several goals. I remember the one verse Birmingham when he about tripped over his own feet before bundling it in. He reminds me of what often happens with young strikers in youth tournaments. They lead †he tourney in goals but most were tap ins or lucky goals and everyone then rates them really high. Then in the pros they end up flopping. Marcus Berg is a recent example of that from Sweden. Thats why I rate Vela’s talent so highly. When he finishes, it is with such great quality.
@fabregas thanks for the service,@nasri get out
Adam this is not a jab at you just feeding on the fodder. of course he is better than chamakh no one disputes that. He is a bench player at his current skill level at best and a starter for a mid table to bottom rung team. Sure he has talent but when you think you are the steam rising from the shite when you have not broken into the starting 11 and are missing sitters with such regularity that when you score we almost kick our tv sets in amazement that you converted one, then you obviously need to go back to training. i mean rumor has it he makes more than 65k per week. do you honestly think he is that good? I know what my answer is. I reckon that if he keeps thinking he is the best striker in the world he would have a shortlived career. He has strength, size and good technique. But there is more to being successfull than that.
mstq…. mate i think you meant Fellaini. i almost had a heart attack when you mentioned aquillani.
Rash, Shane>
You’re half right, but don’t forget that most of the media spend their time trying to turn our fans against our own players, and it looks like they’ve succeeded brilliantly this summer. You really want Nasri and Cesc to leave just because of some rubbish in the papers? You really reckon Bendtner ever said he deserved to start for Arsenal?
You’re batshit gullible, is all I can say. Despite all the bollocks in the papers, so far this summer we’ve cleared out a couple of players we didn’t want, kept those we do want, and brought in two out of the three signings we needed – and all at reasonable prices.
I watched Bendtner with my own eyes say some of this shit. The other day, he literally said “I have done all I can to move.” On Fabregas, come on mate,…..are you that gullible? Wenger has said he is quote….”Stuck between his love for Arsenal and Barcelona”. Fabregas’s close friends come out all the time and say that Fabregas is desperate to join Barcelona and do you ever see Fabregas deny that? Hell, he has a twitter account…it is not really that hard to say something. I also said, I don’t care if he goes or stays…..I just don’t think he should be our captain anymore. Nasri situation is simple. He has a year left and he has not signed a new contract. That is a pretty good sign. Of course I would love if Nasri signed a new contract and stayed for ever. He is a great player. If he comes out and signs one then I will apologize but come on mate. I am as rational as they come but these situations are not hard to see as most of the stuff is caught on video. Gullible?…..I think you might be a little.
Bendtner is better than Chamakah, but attitude and impatience can be a factor. Vela is just too good to let go. I hope we never sell this player. He has too much potential.
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Bendtner’s recent comments about wanting to leave to get regular first-team action are one thing. His supposed comments about being the best in the world are quite another – he actually said it is his job to try and become the best in the world, to try and make himself a starter at Arsenal, which is completely true and actually evidence of a good attitude.
If, having looked for a move, he found that actually there isn’t greener grass elsewhere for him, I expect he’ll come back to the club and work hard here.
“On Fabregas, come on mate,…..are you that gullible? Wenger has said he is quote….”Stuck between his love for Arsenal and Barcelona”.”
Not sure what your point is there, unless it’s that you think some anti-Arsenal hacks are more trustworthy when it comes to knowing Cesc’s state of mind than Wenger. Is it too hard for you to understand that Fabregas wants to leave, and also wants to stay, at the same time? He’s not ‘desperate to join Barca’ at all – in fact, the exact opposite: he’s repeatedly said he’ll be happy to stay.
Is it not hard to understand how having a captain would rather be on another team is not a good thing. Are people forgetting what a captain is? Like I said, he is clearly letting his buddies do the talking for him. If my friends kept publicly stating the same comments about me over and over again and I disagreed, I would be like hey guys….shut the fuck up. It is not hard for me to understand Fabregas because this is not the first time Fabregas left a club he supposedly loves for another club. My only point about him was as a captain, he is not right for the club at the moment. I don’t care if he stays, but he should not be our captain.
On Bendtner, come on mate…really. The players have even come out and talked about his only child like attitude and his training work rate. Now you see he true colors in front of you and you still protest it. You have carved out your place on here as always defending players no matter if they shit on the club or are simply not good enough so I can understand your comments tho. They make sense mate. There are usually two kinds of people on here and a few of us that speak on reality while others are either always positive or always negative. cheers mate
“Is it not hard to understand how having a captain would rather be on another team is not a good thing.”
No, but it’s hard to understand hwy you think that’s the case here. Fabregas has made it absolutely clear that he doesn’t prefer Barcelona to Arsenal – that he loves both clubs. You choose to believe the second-hand reports from people who don’t know him – he’s not actually a friend of Xavi’s, for example, just an acquaintance – over his own direct statements and those of Wenger.
As Goebbels said, if you repeat a lie often enough, people start to believe it, so I don’t blame you for starting to believe the lie, but honestly, open your eyes. Do you ever see a pro-Arsenal comment from a pundit? Or are they overwhelmingly negative? The fact is that most football writers, for various reasons, would like Fabregas to leave Arsenal and do their best to drum up discontent among our fans. You’ve fallen for it, sadly.
“On Bendtner, come on mate…really. The players have even come out and talked about his only child like attitude and his training work rate.”
Eh? When? Never seen that. I’ve never seen a criticism of his work-rate before at all – for all that some people think he’s big-headed, everyone agrees he’s hard-working.
As I’ve said before, NB is the only player who could get stick for wearing pink boots to support breast cancer research. It tells you just how keen the media is to twist everything to reflect badly on Arsenal that no-one mentioned the true reason, but everyone ridiculed him.
I’m not paranoid, they really are out to get us :)
I give up mate. We have such different opinions that it is hard to find a middle ground. I am pretty sure Pique is a friend of Fabregas right? I am pretty sure Fabregas at any point could come out and say point blank via video or twitter that he intends on finishing out his contract at Arsenal or something a long those lines and put an end to all this BS. Instead he does his typical passive BS. Like I will stay at Arsenal but I would like to leave. Come on man, this is our CAPTAIN. Be a CAPTAIN and lead by example. Man up for your team and put an end to this. Like I said, my opinion is on him being our captain.
On Bendtner….we have been over the pink boot thing. If people did not know that it was for breast cancer then how are they to blame for joking about a man wearing pink boots. You are trying to turn that into something it is not.
what game is this photo from when Vela was captain?
Dave, beign a captain means that you should be loyal AND LOVE THE CLUB ABOVE ALL OTHERS!!! You can’t be a GOOD captain and love another club as much as the one you are on, if not more. Look at the great captains. The truly GREAT ones. Aside from Vieira most if not all have been loyal and are club symbols and icons. Most have stayed their whole career or the majority of their career with the same club. I’m not talking about just football either. The truly great leaders in sport are the ones who put their club before anything else. As a captain I can guarantee you that Cesc has not, and will not do this. UNLESS HE STAYS FOR AT LEAST THE REMAINDER OF HIS CONTRACT!!!! Then I will admit my error in judgement. For now, he cannot be the captain of the Arsenal and be taken seriously.
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I disagree. The captain needs to lead the team to the best of his ability, and to have a passion to win with the club. Whatever else he thinks is largely immaterial as long as he’s doing a good job.
How could your club be lead by a guy that everyone believes wants to go to another club? That makes no sense.
Why are you being deliberately obtuse Shane? Clearly not all formations are the same but every formation we play is the same in that we play a lone striker, which is the point I was trying to make. A system that clearly doesn’t suit Vela and didn’t suit Eduardo.
The players you mention: Hernandez doesn’t play up front on his own, Rooney is superbly strong, RVP is 6 foot and strong enough, Tevez is superbly strong, Aguero is superbly strong and Defoe is a complete failure as a long striker so I don’t know why you’ve mentioned him.
It’s not even about size, Chamakh’s a big athletic guy but he’s so bloody soft and timid.
No, it is about style. Edaurdo did not fit because he lost so much from the injury. He still has not regained his form. Like I said, how we play, it is not about having a big guy up top to hold up the ball. Generally we get 7 players around the box and try to pass the team to death. That is my point. Vela would be just fine in our system if he gets going and gets his chance. There are not to many teams that play like us so I don’t know how else to put it. A big guy in our system is like putting a big guy in the Barcelona system. It just slows down the speed of play. Yes, if you find a striker with it all like Drogba then that would be perfect but how many Drogbas are there out there. Vela for me could become a player like Villa or Falcao but he needs to put his head down and work hard…then take his chance.
I’ve just said it’s not about size. But you’ve got to have some physical presence to play on your own up top. A stiff breeze would knock Vela over. He might be okay up there at home against the weaker teams but against the bigger teams (especially away from home) at times you’re gonna be isolated up there so you need to be strong enough to hold it up, otherwise the ball is coming straight back at us. As I said he might be alright against the weaker teams but they’re are the games where we’ve really struggled to score at the Emirates, so I don’t know why we don’t try 4-4-2 in those games- a system where we’ve clearly seen the best of Vela.
What evidence is there to suggest Vela will ever be anywhere near as good as someone like Villa? Has he ever produced when it’s really mattered? He looks a world beater in the Carling Cup and pre-season friendlies.
“What evidence is there to suggest Vela will ever be anywhere near as good as someone like Villa?”
You do realize all we can do is judge talent and potential until potential is realized or not. You could have said the same comments on RVP or most other players when they were young. None of us know 100 percent if a player will reach his potential because a lot of it is based on his determination , work rate and attitude. As far as talent goes though, quality is quality and Vela has plenty of that. By the way…when has Vela had a chance to start up top verse big teams with our first team? How can you say he will fail when he has not even got that shot. The guy only got 6 starts last season.
There’s a reason he doesn’t get more starts. It’s not a conspiracy against Vela.
Yah ok. Coaches never ever pick the wrong players and players never have attitude or work ethic issues. Who plays is not always down to just talent. I am only discussing the talent part of Vela. I don’t know what else goes on so I can’t comment.
There’s no doubting the guy is talented. That’s undeniable. But as you said it takes more than just talent to be a success.
I Love Vela, The Blokes got quality and technique in abundance. Did anyone see his 3 nutmegs before setting up Ramsey vs Boca in The Emirates cup. I’m a big Vela fan and hope he finally gets a proper go at Arsenal