Arsenal have missed out on Brazilian winger Zézinho after Serie ‘A’ outfit Santos signed him on a 24 month loan deal with the option to buy. The Gunners have twice had bids turned down by Juventude for the winger who has only just recovered from injury.
Zézinho’s agent Fernando Silva has been attempting to engineer a move away from debt-ridden Juventude who have been forced to cancel the contracts of their grounds staff and kit manager following relegation to the third tier of Brazilian football. Arsenal have twice had bids rejected but they returned with a third before Christmas, which was accepted. However, a presidential change meant the deal was not concluded.
A team of businessman have maintained a keen interest in the player who is a Brazilian Under 17 international but an injury last month curtailed a deal. On his return to full fitness Santos have moved to snap him up in a new look side which includes Manchester City forward Robinho.
He will link up with his new team-mates on Monday.
Article By – J.Sanderson
Ha, Oh well, Perhaps Watt will get more of a chance now.
J, what do you think of Sanmi Odelusi,
And Zak Ansah, why is everyone so pissed at him at the moment?
Thanks.
That’s too bad. He looked like a real talent from the video of the goal he scored.
thats a shame. lets just hope he doesn’t turn out to be the next boy wonder
Was THIS the signing we were “very close” too I wonder??? Add it to the list. Poor kid can’t have known if he was coming and going.
Bedeuro//
since J never answers the wuestions he gets on here (how can he, there are just too many questions pouring in for him to handle on his own) I thought I’d answer you:
everyone’s pissed at zak ansah because the other day, around new year’s eve, he was walking around in london…..and slipped and fell !! How dare he!
Oh well their will be other prospects
Sanmi Odelusi is a fantastic young striker. He played with Benik Afobe at school level and is rising through the ranks at Bolton. He’s not as good as Benik.
People have been upset with how Zak has conducted himself on some social networking sites. He is a massive Manchester United fan and he made some comments at the weekend which upset a few people.
Its a loan deal dat daznt min we cnt buy him so if we rily r stil interestd den we shud stil b able 2 gt our guy unles tings change. En y r ppl gtin pissd at Ansah 4 fallin(if dats rily wat hapend)
Wat dd the boy say. Huh it fil gud 2 co a player a boy.
Chambwe, please try and speak in clearer English, it’s difficult to make out your point. Would you like to re-phrase it?
Why doesn’t Ansah switch to United then?? I’m serious. Dead serious. When you really think about it, if he loves United, then how can he ever give his all to Arsenal?? I know Ramsey is a United fan, but he was wise enough to keep his mouth shut, and i trust him. But if he gloats around the team after United beat us, then he should have hopped on their plane and flown back to Manchester. i don’t have face book or whatever it is, but if somebody does, you can tell him to go fuck himself sideways. I don’t have the first clue what he said, but if he doesn’t have the decency or maturity to act respectfully around the team after a hard fought loss to one of our biggest rivals, then I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the team. We don’t need any half assed jerks in our youth team or in the first team. That’s all i have to say. If in fact he didn’t say anything, or what he said wasn’t what came out in the press, then I sincerely apologize. But I won’t change my stance until then. Fuck him.
thats a shame then….hopefully we’ll go for sterling now!
I jus read sum of da stuf dis kid Ansah said. So it on Arsenal mainia its unbeliveable I rily do hop its nt tru coz his Ego cud derail his career. Shame on u Ansah if its tru Walcott is a liverpool fan bt he daznt act lyk dis.
J,
what is the status of any interests we have in 6’8″ traore, and galinho and savic after the dagenham game?
I jus read sum of da stuf dis kid Ansah said. So it on Arsenal mainia its unbeliveable, I rily do hop its nt tru coz his Ego cud derail his career. Shame on u Ansah if its tru. Walcott is a liverpool fan bt he daznt act lyk dis.
Thakyou J,
Do you know if Wenger is interested?
(don’t have to answer)
What did this guy zak say?
Yes Zak’s comments have been questionable but he is entitled to his opinion. I’ve bn reading them myself and i get astonished. Lets tolerate him i know he would grow up with time and put a stop to such comments.
Ansah will be better than Walcott,
Afobe and Samni would be a good attack,
J, Chambwe said:
Its a loan deal, that does not mean we cant buy him, so if we are really still interested then we should still be able to sign him, unless things change. And your people are getting pissed at Ansah for falling, if that really happened.
J. nothing confirmed from Juventude yet!!!
http://pitacodogringo.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/santos-snatch-arsenal-target-zezinho/
http://esportes.terra.com.br/futebol/estaduais/2010/noticias/0,,OI4249009-EI14489,00-Santos+contrata+atacante+Zezinho+do+Juventude.htmlTtT
The deal has confirmed by Santos. Juventude quotes seems old.
Why doesn’t Ansah switch to United then?? I’m serious. Dead serious. When you really think about it, if he loves United, then how can he ever give his all to Arsenal?? I know Ramsey is a United fan, but he was wise enough to keep his mouth shut, and i trust him. But if he gloats around the team after United beat us, then he should have hopped on their plane and flown back to Manchester. i don’t have face book or whatever it is, but if somebody does, you can tell him to go fuck himself sideways. I don’t have the first clue what he said, but if he doesn’t have the decency or maturity to act respectfully around the team after a hard fought loss to one of our biggest rivals, then I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the team. We don’t need any half assed jerks in our youth team or in the first team. That’s all i have to say. If in fact he didn’t say anything, or what he said wasn’t what came out in the press, then I sincerely apologize. But I won’t change my stance until then. Fuck him.
Milo said this on February 5, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Zak is young, and fanatic about united, what do you expect, if i were him, i’d do the same thing about arsenal, we’re lucky to have our hands filled with ansah, he’s has got amazing potential. so, everyone upset and also the people slating him, seriously, get a life!
With the players we have now like Denilson, we are no near the title. “I belive we have the quality but need to find the right spirit”. We heard that thousands of times.
Btw nice clip on Fabregas;
http://www.goals.se/2010/02/06/goals-punkt-se-represent-player-of-the-week/
READ WHAT HE SAID. IT’S ON ARSENAL MANIA. IT”S TOTALLY INNAPPROPRIATE. HE INSULTS SOME OF OUR FANS, AS WELL AS THE FIRST TEAM SQUAD. YOU GET A LIFE!! THAT DOESN’T INVOLVE ARSENAL, IF YOU STILL SIDE WITH ANSAH. FUCK HIM. AND IF YOU AREN”T CAREFUL, FUCK YOU TOO.
Paulo Henrique, Neymar, Zezinho and Robinho….that is going to be an exciting team.
I think it is funny how everyone gets so upset about stuff like this because everyone puts these players on a pedal stool. Honestly they are just immature kids like we all were at 14,15,16. If you have facebook and are friends with them you would have known this already. Frempong said he felt embarrassed after Man Utd lost to Leeds…blah blah blah. Not to mention he him and his friends have been saying he is the future of the black stars aka ghana, for ever now even tho he is an England youth international. The way they talk on Facebook is not how any proffesional players talk and they will all mature.
I keep hearing the Walcott is a Liverpool fan, Fabregas is a Barca fan, Arshavin is a barca fan, Ramsey is a man utd fan, etc. Those are completely different situations because they didnt grow up at Arsenal. They joined at 16 at the earliest, and that is old enough to already be a true fan of a different club. I find it a little messed up how you can play for a big club from the ages of like 9,10,11 and not support that club. Its not like you were a true supporter of a club at 8 years old. Also the English comment bothers me. I root for the “Local Lad”, because it really is a special thing for a kid to make it big at the club he supported as a boy, but for one you see my first issue with Ansahs comment. He doesnt fit that role by the fact that he doesnt support Arsenal. The 2nd thing is, it isnt a player’s right to play for the club just because of your nationality. Every player has to earn his spot in the team regardless of where you are from.
I just read what Zak Ansah had to say, what a little douchebag and Arsenal should fine the idiot for those comments, just like what Tottenham Hotspurs did with Darren Bent when he accused Daniel Levy of holding up his transfer to Sunderland, and i think that little outburst cost Darren Bent two weeks wages, so the same rule should apply to Zak Ansah as well.
Can someone please quote what he said?
simon sterner
Just go on Arsenal Mania click on the lobby section and then click on young gunns loanes and reserve team football topic and read it for yourself that is of coarse you can understand what he is saying.
Kentpaul, if you are to give information…don’t give false info.
1) there is no lobby section on arsenal-mania
2) there is a lobby forum in the message board section though
It’s official. Zak Ansah will not make it at Arsenal or United. I don’t care if he is young he is stupid. Its one thing to love United but to talk shit about the team he is fighting for…. that is just plain stupid. He is taking everything he has for granted and with such an ego already that will only make it harder for him. At this level he might be one of the best. But in reserves and at Arsenal level that is totally another story. There is a reason why only selected few who is highly discipline can make it. Let’s see what he’s gonna say when bad times comes for him in the club. His form will dip and the competition will be fears in U18. He only gets chances at U18 when our regulars is not available and to educate him. Lets see how good he really think he is when its fetting real serious.
I’d just like to make it out that Zak is not on the payroll at Arsenal and he is only 15-year-old. Darren Bent is a grown man and an international footballer. I think we need some level on this.
LOL J,
Zak is 15 , he thinks he knows everything.
Give him a chance to apologise.
I think that’s a little wide of the mark to be honest man, we don’t know the boy. I think it’s easy to rake up some stuff from anybodys Facebook page and put a negative light on them.
Yet still I’m very dissapointed the club don’t take the matter seriously. I’ll see if Zak would be interested in speaking to Young Guns about the issue.
Im 14, I think exactly the same way.
Most teens do.
It would be interesting to see his response, and yes we dont know him, just sharing an opinion.
For sure man, I take your point. You’re a fantastic commenter for somebody so young, it’s a pleasure to have you here mate.
Thanks J, Even if I sound stuck up sometimes.
Ps.
What do you think of Asamoah Gyan, Aristide Bance, Gladson Awako and Emmanuel Mayuka? I saw them play , they seemed like hard working players.
(Who should I look out or in our youth team, theres a lot of talent, so I was wondering who stood out.)
Like I said just read my comment. He is 15 not a proffesional player. He will be immature because he is young. Owell, I think everyone is immature at some point in their teenage life.
Yuck,
just read [C]ansahs comment,
vomit bag please?
Oh well, Hes only 15.
thankyou shane, and Milo, language like that is not needed, the kid is not a professional yet, i play for my local team, cobbler and i still slate them!!!(i’m 16), cause I’m a massive fan of lecesiter city fc, and do not compare this kid to bent, all those flops and tossers, trust me, zak is the REAL DEAL!!!!
Ansah Is just runin is wild mouth… is a kid so let in be.
Shane- what’s a pedal stool?
Zak Ansah is a fool, youth is no excuse. He plays for Arsenal yet slates the club, and the supporters, on a public website. He has neither the intelligence nor the ability to play for us.
Santos is not Italian but a Brazilian club!
Nobody said they were Italian?
stillo- how old are you?(might be rude of me), buh didn’t you slate your friends when you was in secondary skl!, and your saying he has He has neither the intelligence nor the ability to play for us.”, are you nutzzzzz, him and alban banjuku are the best 16 year old at the club and have you read what wenger said about him, and gonner chris had no right to go on him fb and say that to him, and wtf did gonner chris add him, cause the kid himself said, who are you, for christ sake, let him be, he’s only 15 and he just his emotions get ahead of him!
Stilo…lol it is a figure of speech all though miss spelled, it is actually pedestal. It is when you think of a person in a unrealistic manner and think they are perfect people. The public does it all the time. Treat players like they are perfect angels then get shocked when the do something dumb or mischievous. Tiger Woods is a perfect example of that.
loool, stilo*
FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM. OH YEAH AND FUCK HIM. THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU DON’T TOUCH. THERE ARE SOME LINES YOU DON”T CROSS. YOU CAN TELL HIM YOURSELF. MY NAME IS MILO BURSTYN, AND YOU CAN TELL HIM TO GO FUCK HIMSELF. I DON’T GIVE A CRAP HOW OLD HE IS. I DON”T CARE HOW GOOD HE IS. I HOPE FABREGAS GOES TOO> IF YOU DO NOT LOVE ARSENAL THE MOST, YES THE FUCKING MOST OUT OF ANY TEAM ON THE GOD DAMN PLANET, THEN I DON’T CARE TO SEE YOU STEP OUT ONTO THE FIELD AND REPRESENT US. THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING IN OUR TEAM. NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT THIS. THESE FUCKERS DON’T GIVE IT 100 PERCENT BECAUSE THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF IT. THEY DON’T LOVE THE CLUB. YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE UNITESD PLAYERS THAT PLAYED AGAINST US. WOULD THEY HAVE RATHER BEEN PLAYING ANYWHERE ELSE?? WOULD THEY?? WE PUSSYFOOT AND PUSSYFOOT AROUND THIS WHOLE SUBJECT, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE. IT IS A MAJOR ISSUE. IT KILLS ME TO SAY THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I WILL BE SHED IN A BAD LIGHT, AND SO I SHOULD FOR MY LANGUAGE, BUT THIS IS HOW I SEE IT. I CAN BE MUCH MORE ARTICULATE, POLITE AND CONSIDERATE, BUT THIS HAS JUST THROWN ME COMPLETELY OVERBOARD. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY, UPSET, DISMAYED AND DISSAPPOINTED I AM WITH THE ATTITUDE BEING DISPLAYED BY SOME OF THE PLAYERS AND STAFF. THERE SHOULD BE NO ROOM FOR THIS KIND OF THING AT OUR CLUB. I WANT TO SEE PLAYERS WHO WILL GIVE THIS TYPE OF COMMITTMENT, AND IF THEY CAN’T GET THEM OUT. GET THEM OUT AND FIND OTHER PLAYERS. I’M SORRY BUT FOR ME, IT ISN’T ALL ABOUT SKILL. IT ISN’T. FOR ME HEART AND INTELIGENCE COMES FIRST. IF YOU DON’T HAVE THAT, THEN I DOBN’T CARE HOW GOOD YOU ARE. I DON’T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THIS IN THE FIRST TEAM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE SPREADING INTO THE YOUTH AS WELL. I’M TELLING YOU, GET THEM OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!
Milo has a rather good point, that people are scared to admit.
Ashley Young, Loic Remy, Gervinho, and many others are dying to play for us, so Wenger buys someone who does not?
Milo, must have took you a while to write that, you actually want fab gone aswell?, i’n guessing your a anti-wenger?, and a true fan would never want any of our prize positions out of the club!
We have ramsey, and fab is worth 50 mil, I dont wan him 2 go tho.
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I retract what I said about Faregas. But I don’t take back anything else I said. I have great admiration for Arsene Wenger, no exceptions. Don’t you feel the same though?? I want players who wouldn’t ever want to play anywhere other than Arsenal, and to me it looks like that might not necessarily be the case. I don’t want a player who religeously folloher club. Or a player who gloats in front of the team or insults our fans and players after a loss to a rival. Or any team for that matter. It only makes sense. I would strongly question the staff if they didn’t at least talk to Ansah about what he has done. He will have a LONG< LONG way to go now for me to believe in him, regardless of his talent. Don't you want players who will fight to exaustion for the club?? We deffinately have SOME, but not all of the layers are willing to display that type of commitment. That's the case, at least in my estimation. Tell me if you think I'm nuts.
Milo…. I got a news flash for you. We would probally not have a full team if Wenger followed your rant. I would say 85 percent of players in the worlds dream is to play for either Barca or Real Madrid. You have to accept that. Cruyff loved Ajax but still moved to Barca. Henry loved Arsenal and Wenger but is at Barca now. I doubt there is a player that wouldnt want to join those 2 clubs. They are at the top of the food chain and the most prestigious clubs there are. This is just reality. I which brings to Fabregas, I actually find it amazing how long he has stayed here and seems to want to stay even with Barca being his boyhood club and the things I stated above not to mention they are the most dominate team in the world right now. @ champs league titles in 4 years, are undefeated this year in the spanish league, won 6 trophies last year, have players like Messi,Ibrahimovic and Iniesta. Hell the more I type the more I respect Fabregas for staying here and helping with Wengers dream to turn us into that type of club. Most other players in his shoes would have jumped ship by now. I also find it messed up when Mannn Utd fans complain about Ronaldo. He stayed there 5 years won 2 titles , a champs league trophy, finished runner up 1 year, won the world player of the year. What more do you want.
Shane, I still strongly disagree. Either you love the club or you don`t. It`s as simple as that. You can`t split your committment or priorities or your alliance between Arsenal and another club. Or any club. If you are not good enough to make it at the club you love, then no matter what, if you are in DIRECT competition with them, you will still feel a bit of a detachment from the club you are playing for. It isn`t complicated, it`s human nature. I still think that if Fabregas really wants to stay, then he should just say that he isn`t going to Barcalona. But you know that he can`t say that because he will always doubt his decision if he decided to not return to Barca. So he will go. You can`t have players like that in your team. You can`t.
Bring in boys who`s dream it is to play for Arsenal. Seek and ye shall find I think is how the saying goes. If they are reasonably talented, they will make it and be successful. And it doesn`t matter where they are from either. There are Arsenal fans all over the world. And believe it or not, some of them actually play Football. Imagine that. Shane sometimes you piss me off no end. If you don`t love the club then you can`t play for it simple as that. I don`t know how you can disagree or say otherwise. It wil never actually be this way, but it doesn`t prevent me from being frustrated about it. Call me old fashioned, idealistic, or whatever, but this is the way it should be, and I think at least one Knight of the British kingdom would agree with me. The majority of players at the club he is a part of would as well. I`ll leave it to you to figure out who I am speaking of. And don`t say I`m anti-Wenger. I`m not, I`m just using this knight as a successful practitioner of my ethos.
Who actually wants to play for Arsenal?
(Loic Remy?)
Milo…you dont get what I am saying. We would not have a team. Most players would jump at the chance to join Barca or Real Madrid. Even Man united players. Even Juventus players. It doesnt matter, they are the top of the food chain. As long as you give your all for this club while you are here, you cant ask for much more. The fact is tho that they greatest players in the world will most likely end up playing for Barca or Real at some point.
Then maybe I am anti football. What good is it if every player wants to play for those teams?? I don’t believe that for a second though. Like I said…ever here Ryan Giggs say he wanted to play for Barca?? What about Scholes?? We are missing these types of players. The only ones we have are Van Persie and Vermaelen. Song isn’t in the same class as Giggs or Scholes or even Gerrard or Carragher or Terry or Lampard. He will be though if he sticks with Arsenal. I want more players like that. It IS possible. I think it is. They are out there to be found. I wouldn’t want to play for Barca. Would you?? I wouldn’t want to play for Real Madrid either. I am a football fan and I appreciate the great history these two clubs have, but I love Arsenal the most. I’m sure there are thousands of young boys out in the world, who are much better football players than me, who would give there all to play for Arsenal. I don’t know how it would be possible to evaluate them all, but there should be a question that all the players who come to Arsenal should be required to answer. Why do you want to play for Arsenal?? Is it for a selfish reason like wanting to make the national team?? Is it to further your own career?? Or is it because this is the only place you want to be?? The players who answer with that type of response should be given priority over the others. If there are one or two oustanding, and I mean outstanding talents, then MAYBE you can consider condensing them with the rest. This is how I would do it. I know it will never happen but that is what I would do. You have to be able to trust your players and not worry about who might be leaving in a few years and who might be staying. And by leaving, I don’t mean retiring.